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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

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    Ironic coming from the man with the religious signature.
    How is having a signature on a forum shoving your religion in people's face? I wonder what you think of courthouse displays of the 10 commandments.
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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Why is it foolish? People are fired daily because they don't conform with dress codes. Again, I've made the case that I myself have tattoos and earrings and I've made sure my employers know for a fact that I will not remove them in order to please them. Why should she be any different? It's pretty reasonable for an employer to expect all employees to conform to a dress code.
    The thing is, she took the same initiative that you say that you do. During her interview she discussed her religious requirements and they told her that it would be ok for her to wear a skirt. It would be like an employer hiring you and then firing you later for having tattoos or earrings even though they specifically said that they would be acceptable.
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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    The thing is, she took the same initiative that you say that you do. During her interview she discussed her religious requirements and they told her that it would be ok for her to wear a skirt.
    This claim is only made by the EEOC and her. Again, neither have been validated and in ANY case verbal contracts NEVER trump official company policy.
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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    This claim is only made by the EEOC and her. Again, neither have been validated and in ANY case verbal contracts NEVER trump official company policy.
    What if it was true that they did say this? I think it may be highly probable, given the lawsuit, that they would refuse to confirm that they told her she could wear the skirt since that could possibly result in them loosing the lawsuit.
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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    This claim is only made by the EEOC and her. Again, neither have been validated and in ANY case verbal contracts NEVER trump official company policy.
    We should eliminate freedom of speech then. It mandates that people assume the risk of fraud.

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    What if it was true that they did say this?
    It. Does. Not. Trump. Official. Company. Policy. - Have you ever been to a business and the guys on the floor tell you something about the warranty then when you actually go to buy it, the company policy is completely different? There isn't much the guy on the floor can do but admit that he made a mistake and hope he doesn't get fired. That's it. The company doesn't honor the claims of the person who made they sale and they shouldn't have to. They can however allow you to keep your money and piss off. Which is what this young lady should have done.
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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    It. Does. Not. Trump. Official. Company. Policy.
    It also means that they were in the wrong for telling her one thing and then mandating another after hire. It may not trump company policy, but it may result in them loosing the lawsuit.
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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    It also means that they were in the wrong for telling her one thing and then mandating another after hire. It may not trump company policy, but it may result in them loosing the lawsuit.
    The bottomline is they forced the employee to assume the risk of fraud.

    People trust each other. It needs to be recognized that people have limited attention spans, and that attention is committed on the basis of trust.

    Otherwise, we're discriminating against those who have less attention to afford. It's elitism.

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    It also means that they were in the wrong for telling her one thing and then mandating another after hire. It may not trump company policy, but it may result in them loosing the lawsuit.
    What utter nonsense. If this was even remotely true I'd be able to sue anybody who made a claim on the sales floor and then the claim ended up being untrue when I asked again right before purchase. There was no monetary loss to this lady or even discrimination based on her religion. You're reaching digs.
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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    What utter nonsense. If this was even remotely true I'd be able to sue anybody who made a claim on the sales floor and then the claim ended up being untrue when I asked again right before purchase. There was no monetary loss to this lady or even discrimination based on her religion. You're reaching digs.
    I would say being terminated from employment is different from being told a lie on the sales floor prior to a purchase (which may be subject to fraud or false advertising). What this does do is affect her employment record and show up on background checks.
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