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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    She sounds like a brain washed spoiled brat.
    My main function as a Christian is to be the biggest possible jerk as a demonstration of the awe found in God's Grace and Forgiveness. (That love part comes in to play at some point)

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Omgitsme View Post
    Agree with most of that statement. But I dont believe you should have to conform to a dress code that violates your religion unless it interferes with job performance to not do so.
    Would you apply for a job at a place where you knew that they had a policy that violated your beliefs?

    I've asked this same question a dozen times over in this thread and no one has given me a sufficiant, valid answer.

    Does this girl not have any accountability for her actions? Can she not make decisions as to where she works? And don't give me the whole speild about job scarcity. The girl was 17 years old. No doubt still living with her parents which provided and cared for her.
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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

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    False, business's can not discriminate against race, gender identity ,religion, sexual orientation, they can't have a sign outside that says "Blacks enter through the back", they'd be shut down faster than Steve Downie trying to deke around Nicklas Lidstrom.
    The fourteenth amendment is not the civil right bill that deals with this matter and from my understanding you were confusing the two.

    If you really want to get all pissy about it then you should be aware that the provision violates property rights blatantly and is an obvious violation of the Constitution.

    The excuse that was used was the commerce clause, however, its pretty obvious that it fails on all fronts. Its not trade between the listed members, its not a trade dispute, there is nothing at all to keep regular between the members listed, its the practice of an owner practicing his rights of ownership.
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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

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    How could he have known about her religion when she brought it up? The fact that they can't make a simple accommodation just proves that they are assholes with no thought to understanding.
    This might be a really weird concept for you, but people have the right to be assholes.

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    This might be a really weird concept for you, but people have the right to be assholes.
    Hence the reason that we have a right to free speech but there is no right to not be offended.
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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Well, I couldn't find any religions that require members to wear tank tops. I did find this OSHA letter. There is a recommendation in here about employees in a kitchen wearing pants and sleeves to avoid burns, cuts, etc. I don't know if it means anything though. I do know that most long skirts are either loose and flowing or tight and constrict leg movement a bit though.

    02/23/2011 - Safety hazards associated with wearing skirts in a restaurant setting.

    "Unfortunately, OSHA cannot provide a more specific answer to your inquiry due to the limited amount of information provided. The degree of exposure to restaurant kitchen hazards depends on, among other factors, the work the employee is performing and the characteristics of the employee's clothing. Employees may be exposed to sharp objects and hot surfaces and substances, and risk being cut and burned. The exposure of a greater amount of skin, whether from shorts, short skirts, or short sleeves, can increase the likelihood and severity of burns from splashing hot substances. The more loose-fitting the clothing is, meanwhile, the greater the potential for the clothing to catch fire or become caught in a machine. Regardless of the potential hazard, exposure also depends upon job responsibilities. For example, a waitress picking up food orders in the kitchen is generally less exposed to the hazards there than the cooks are.

    Although OSHA does not have a specific standard or policy regarding kitchen apparel, we do recommend that kitchen staff, particularly those working in close proximity to any of the various hazards described above, wear protective clothing such as long-sleeved cotton shirts and pants to protect from cuts and bums."

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    Thanks, I've read them several times. I'm aware of the EEOC SOPs. I also know from personal experience that the EEOC can be hobbled by its own people, on several levels, over months of investigation, up to and including case manager and EEOC attorneys. In one instance it was a blatant misinterpretation of the law, and in another it was its own complete ignorance and non-complaince of civil law. I'm not an attorney, and even though I am a victim Southern education I somehow learned to read.

    The complaint is not about religion and it will not be determined on the basis of religion.


    Thanks for sharing your experience.



    Perhaps you could address the issues and facts in OP...

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by johnny_rebson View Post
    This woman was not fired for being too fat. She was not forced to pay for her uniform.

    The Hooters uniform is the same as it was when I entered my first Hooters Restaurant. The owners are legally allowed to set uniform requirements.
    That place is always fighting lawsuits and should have been shut down or had EEO laws enforced.
    My main function as a Christian is to be the biggest possible jerk as a demonstration of the awe found in God's Grace and Forgiveness. (That love part comes in to play at some point)

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Omgitsme View Post
    Agree with most of that statement. But I dont believe you should have to conform to a dress code that violates your religion unless it interferes with job performance to not do so.
    One more thing that I would like to say about this post. I might agree with your belief IF the girl had no choice but to work there. But she does and she voluntarily applied for a job there. Being that is the case why shouldn't the employer be allowed to dicate that she adhere to the dress code? Which again, she knew about before she applied for the job.
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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Sheesh. It gets a little tiresome. 'I dont like your rules". Oh...OK...well...we understand and wish you the best of luck in your new job. "Wait...thats not fair! You should have to change your rules for me"

    No...they shouldnt.

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