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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

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    False, business's can not discriminate against race, gender identity ,religion, sexual orientation, they can't have a sign outside that says "Blacks enter through the back", they'd be shut down faster than Steve Downie trying to deke around Nicklas Lidstrom.
    I ll run my business as I please, if I dont want certain folks in it they aint getting in. They want to sue go for it. Its called the freedom of association.
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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    You've got it backwards. She is requiring them to violate thier company policy to accomodate her religious belief. She is the one that applied for the job. They did not ask her to. As the supplicant she must abide by thier conditions. Not the other way around.
    Company policy cannot violate a persons rights.

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    But will devout Muslim employees handle the food?
    The prohibition is against eating pork, not handling pork. They can serve it, they can clean tables with remnants of pork left on them, they can take out the trash that has pork in it, hell they can even play football.

    If they don't want to eat _____, they don't have to eat _____.

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

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    That was the official reason, though the real reason was because she was kicking ass.
    I think that her visions may have had a little something to do with it.

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    true and I will try to set out my position again

    IN AN IDEAL WORLD free of the expansion of the commerce clause by FDR and his minions, an EMPLOYER should have the absolute right to hire or fire whom he pleases

    IN an IDEAL world religions would not be idiotic to decree that ladies pants are "menswear"-as I noted in medieval europe fashionable young men wore what basically is the same thing our fashionable young women wear-mini skirts and tights. and the factory environment of WWII made trousers the standard for the women making weapons of war while the men were fighting the Nazis and the Rising Sun.

    BUT since we DO have TITLE VII and since that is the LAW OF THE LAND (whether I like it or not) and as an attorney who has handled over ONE HUNDRED TITLE VII cases including several federal jury trials of REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION I can tell you it is my belief BK violated Title VII
    But they didn't violate TITLE VII as she was fired for not conforming to the dress code before the guy knew about her religion. Is Title VII not suppose to stop discrimination of someones religion? How can there be discrimination if the one that did the firing had no clue as to her religious beliefs at the time he told her to go home? How can it be discrimination if the employee was just enforcing a companies decades old policy that was made because the employer saw that having a dress code was good for buisness? IE the policy was made with no regard to religion. There is absolutely no evidence that we have seen were this womans religion was discriminated against.
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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    Until corporate decides to put pork on the menu, then what?
    If someones religious beliefs interfere with their ability to do the job then they can be fired.

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    Exactly. The entire thing is going to come down to who said what. Her rights to dress code were protected PRIOR to being employed. BKs corporated dress code policy were protected PRIOR to her being employed.

    1. She has the right to dress how every she feels she is compelled to dress for religious purposes.

    2. BK has the right to refuse people work who cannot respond corporate dress codes.

    The argument is not about who had what right PRIOR to hire. The argument is about who did or did not agree to those rights at the point of interview/hire.

    What was she told?
    When?
    Who told her?
    Is there written documentation of what was relayed to her by BK management?
    Is there a published dress code that would address wearing of pants?
    Was it provided to her in the interview and did she acknowledge that she had read the and agreed to the dress code?
    Was the interviewer qualified to interview and relay corporate policies?
    Was the BK trainer negligent in his communication with the employee?

    It really is not about religion.
    The discussion between the parties is mere an aspect of this situation and speaks to conduct, and does not impact the Title VII situation which is the basis of the lawsuit filed by the EEOC. In fact they have not filed a complain based in breach of contract. So we could get that fiction off the table. It is about religion as far as the parties, the law and the US goverment is concerned.

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    And honestly, y'all, this isn't about religion. It's about dress code and whether or not a interviewee was properly informed about a dress code requirement before being hired. Unless it is covered in writing it's down to two people and who said or didn't say what about wearing a dress.

    I haven't read any statement where BK discussed religion with her. From what I understand she says she brought it up, but I have read anything where BK made any disparaging remarks about her religion.

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    I ll run my business as I please, if I dont want certain folks in it they aint getting in. They want to sue go for it. Its called the freedom of association.
    You comply with federal and state law or you're fined and/or lose your bushiness license. Pretty simple concept.

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