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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    Of cousre they do with the exception of discriminating against a person based on religion in this situation.
    I have shown several times now that this persons religion was not discriminated against. The person that told her to go home told her to go home BEFORE he even knew her religion. Kind of hard to discriminate against someone based on their religion when you don't even know thier religion.

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    You have ignored the law , the reasoning, the case filed by the EEOC and the press release issued by the EEOC all of which I have I posted and provided explanation therein. I am not avoiding your questions I have answered them, quite extensively in fact.
    Yes you did avoid them. All that you have done is quoted law. You never once stated your opinion of that law. Nor have you provided an explanation of why you support the law if you do or why you don't support the law if you don't. Now I CAN assume that you fully support the law by your posting of it time after time. But you still have not given a valid reason as to why you support the law. I know you have basically stated that it is because the employer has too much power, which is subjective, but that is not a valid enough reason to deny the right of the employer to dictate their companies dress code and apply it to everyone regardless of race, religion, gender, or creed.

    Even the Federal government has the ability to apply a rule/law so long as they apply that rule/law equally. Hell, they can even allow a religion to display thier religious display's so long as they allow ALL religions to do it..or not...as long as its all applied equally. Why shouldn't a private company be allowed the same thing?
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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    That's not it at all.

    The owner still sets the uniform even while they have to make small exceptions. The owner still tells the Pentecost employee what length, color, material and general appearance the skirt has to meet, just as they do for the Hajib today. Based on my experience ordering my own pants for fast-food in highschool, the employer can even require that you order from a certain catalog at your own expense (you wouldn't believe the quantity of alternative approved uniform pieces KFC has). A Muslim KFC employee had the right to wear the Hajib, but it has to be a solid color with no writing, of either red, blue or white, couldn't cover the face, had to be tucked into the collar, and couldn't otherwise dangle or get in the way.

    Just because a pregnant employee has the right to un-tuck the uniform shirt, doesn't mean the employer lost the ability to set the uniform. An amputee can pin up the pant leg, doesn't mean the employer can't still require uniform pants. An employee on oxygen and has to have a tank doesn't mean the employer can't prohibit writing or flair on the tank or it's carrier.

    We say "small exception to the rule", and you respond with "complete and total loss of control". You're being hysterical. The only thing the employer needs to give on is allowing a skirt. Everything else stays well within the employer's control.
    Really? And when another female employee sees this girl wearing a skirt and asks to wear a skirt as well, how do they say no without discriminating against her?.

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Not even close to the same thing. Can someones race be donned and chosen like a skirt? Can someones sexual orientation be donned like a skirt? Can gender be donned like a skirt? All of those are of course no. They cannot be donned like a skirt. Ones religion can be chosen. Those examples you gave cannot be.

    Not that it really matters to me. I'm quite willing to allow the employer to discriminate against whatever they want all they want. I fully believe that today's society will weed them out of buisness if thier belief is truely wrong.
    This isnt about a simple article of clothing. Its about religious beliefs. And if you believe that wearing pants will upset god or whatever you really arnt going to wear pants. So to her wearing a skirt is the only option.

    I dont believe an employer should be able to discriminate against whoever they want.

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Yep, this.

    There are certain things that need to be protected. We have rights, we are not sheep for the employers to disregard our humanity.
    Nor are the employers rights any less valid just because they are employers.
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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Yes it is, you know the right to religious freedom.
    A right represents your freedom of action. No one is restricting her right to believe whatever she wishes. That she may not be able to practice every aspect of her faith on someone elses property is not denying that right.

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    If I recall correctly, KFC just rolled with the Hajib and made an 'official' uniform hajib as alternative head gear for Muslim women. It's red with the KFC logo on the front. So instead of spending a fortune fighting a lawsuit, they turned the situation into a product and made a profit off of it.

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Omgitsme View Post
    This isnt about a simple article of clothing. Its about religious beliefs. And if you believe that wearing pants will upset god or whatever you really arnt going to wear pants. So to her wearing a skirt is the only option.

    I dont believe an employer should be able to discriminate against whoever they want.
    Because an employer refuses to acknowledge an absurd belief is not evidence of discrimination. BK is not banning herfrom working there, they were willing to hire her so long as she abidedby their rules. She couldnt so she is gone. That is not discrimination, that is life.

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Nor are the employers rights any less valid just because they are employers.
    When you become an employer there are certain government guidelines that you must follow, and you must respect your employee's rights.
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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    Because an employer refuses to acknowledge an absurd belief is not evidence of discrimination. BK is not banning herfrom working there, they were willing to hire her so long as she abidedby their rules. She couldnt so she is gone. That is not discrimination, that is life.
    This behavior is why the mods had to create a separate forum for genuine religious discussions.

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    Because an employer refuses to acknowledge an absurd belief is not evidence of discrimination. BK is not banning herfrom working there, they were willing to hire her so long as she abidedby their rules. She couldnt so she is gone. That is not discrimination, that is life.
    To her it isnt an absurd belief. And you are right BK isnt banning her from working there. However they are requiring that she violate her religious beliefs in order to work there.

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