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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    No not in my mind's eye in the eyes of the law and I have cited the law to you several times already. It is a legal compliance issue that BK must adhere to barring the qualified exemptions for which I have already explained and posted.
    So you're against the law? If so why? If not why? What is your reason for supporting this law which violates private individuals rights?
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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Omgitsme View Post
    How is wearing a long skirt to work pushing religion on others?
    Its not. What is does do though is elevate one particular religious denomination over all others. The wackier the belief system, the more likely you are to not have to follow the same rules as everyone else.

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    BK accepted the girl, then rejected the girl. On what basis and where do you wish to hold her accountable?
    On what grounds did they accept her and then reject her?

    Bold: How about the basis that she purposely applied for a job which she KNEW there was a dress code that did not coincide with her religious belief? Is she not responsible for that action?
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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Omgitsme View Post
    How is wearing a long skirt to work pushing religion on others?
    There's a Muslim woman in my battalion. She wears the Hajib with her duty uniform; yes, this means in armor while out in the field.

    According to some on this thread, because there is someone wearing a visible religious garment, I therefore must now worship Allah and pray 5 times a day.

    ..and a skirt isn't even a religious garment....her religion simply requires her to wear certain normal clothes which are not inherently religious....what a load of bull****.

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    Its not. What is does do though is elevate one particular religious denomination over all others. The wackier the belief system, the more likely you are to not have to follow the same rules as everyone else.
    Wearing a skirt is 'wacky'?

    Have you ever seen the inside of an office building?

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    On what grounds did they accept her and then reject her?

    Bold: How about the basis that she purposely applied for a job which she KNEW there was a dress code that did not coincide with her religious belief? Is she not responsible for that action?
    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    So you're against the law? If so why? If not why? What is your reason for supporting this law which violates private individuals rights?
    You are creating one fiction after another ....should you wish to continue further kindly stick to the issue at hand....


    Individual rights are not being violated here. If, for example BK had 14 employees Title VII would not be applicable. I will painstakingly repost from post # 252 as these are the reasons why such a law is applicable to BK.

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    BK is a private business no doubt, however, they substantially effect commerce and have the requisite number of employees therefore fall must comply with Title VII. Moreover, as a private business that substantially effects commerce and has the requisite number of employees they must abide by these laws not withstanding their private dress code, in this instance. Indeed, if the issue were that the teenager needed to pray every hour and there was no substantial impact on the ability to perform her task then very few would have an issue with this situation and if BK would not allow her to pray it would be easier to find for the woman. She is not attempting to force her views, her values or her religion on BK she is seeking to have her rights protected in accordance to what BK is required to do.

    The employee should prevail as a matter of law unless BK "demonstrates that they are unable to reasonably accommodate to an employee’s or prospective employee’s religious observance or practice without undue hardship on the conduct of the employer’s business."

    The relevant applicable law applicable to BK:


    "TITLE 42 - THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND WELFARE
    CHAPTER 21 - CIVIL RIGHTS
    SUBCHAPTER VI - EQUAL EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES

    42 U.S.C. Section 2000e. Definitions

    (b) The term “employer” means a person engaged in an industry affecting commerce who has fifteen or more employees for each working day in each of twenty or more calendar weeks in the current or preceding calendar year

    (g) The term “commerce” means trade, traffic, commerce, transportation, transmission, or communication among the several States; or between a State and any place outside thereof; or within the District of Columbia, or a possession of the United States; or between points in the same State but through a point outside thereof.

    (h) The term “industry affecting commerce” means any activity, business, or industry in commerce or in which a labor dispute would hinder or obstruct commerce or the free flow of commerce and includes any activity or industry “affecting commerce” within the meaning of the Labor-*Management Reporting and Disclosure Act of 1959 [29 U.S.C. 401 et seq.], and further includes any governmental industry, business, or activity."

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    You have to comply with Equal Opportunity rules in hiring and promotions... one of which addresses religion.
    Yes it does. And it was meant to apply to those situations where the employer didn't hire someone, or fired someone due to religion. This is not what happened in this story. The orientation manager told the girl to go home because she was wearing a dress. Which was against company rules. Him telling her to go home had absolutely NOTHING to do with her religion. It had EVERYTHING to do with her wearing a dress when the company rule book has a specific dress code.

    Why can't you get that through YOUR head?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    "MY EMPLOYEE" is not the same thing as "MY DOG"!
    Nor is "MY EMPLOYER" the same as "MY DOG"!
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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Wearing a skirt is 'wacky'?

    Have you ever seen the inside of an office building?
    No, believing that God gets angry at women who wears pants is wacky.

    I love the sudden sympathy for Old Testament Christians. Apparently anti-homosexual verses are out of favor but not ones that dictate fashion.

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    No, believing that God gets angry at women who wears pants is wacky.
    Oh well, that's life.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    I love the sudden sympathy for Old Testament Christians. Apparently anti-homosexual verses are out of favor but not ones that dictate fashion.
    Love the thread-jack attempt, not to many people will fall for it, though.

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    No, believing that God gets angry at women who wears pants is wacky.

    I love the sudden sympathy for Old Testament Christians. Apparently anti-homosexual verses are out of favor but not ones that dictate fashion.
    And I think we're starting to see the Old Testament make a comeback with rules about rape and incest-- "Hey, these things happen, don't throw the zygote out with the bathwater."

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