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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Yeah, I think they're overreacting and misinterpreting myself... but it's what they believe and it is very important to them.

    It would be VERY little, if ANY, skin off BK's nose to just let her wear the skirt.
    Only if she signs a waiver detailing that she gives up all rights to sue BK in the event of an accident where pants would have prevented or lessened an injury.
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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Only if she signs a waiver detailing that she gives up all rights to sue BK in the event of an accident where pants would have prevented or lessened an injury.
    LOL no, more like BK either cooperates or they get sued. No waivers, we go to litigation and BK spends more on settling out of court then they would have spent on this young lady's wages and printing a memo allowing skirts. No waiver either way.

    This entitlement mentality is only going to get real business owners in more and more trouble.

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    your G_d may not care but she believes it is important to her G_d to abide by what she understands to be his expectations. and one of those is to not wear what is taken to be men's clothing, such as pants
    this is America, where we tolerate religious differences
    yes we have absolute tolerance for religious differences. this is why it is legal if you are christian or jewish to own slaves as the bible says you should. It is also legal to beat your wife and kids, and actually necessary to do so if you are a christian. Let us not forget it is legal to stone people who practice other religions if you are a christian. yes, we are absolutely tolerant of everything that happens in your religion.

    Now lets step back into reality. No, just because you practice a religion does not mean you get to define working policy for places. If you are capable and willing to do the job as they require then you should be considered. in this case she clearly was not willing to follow the dress code. just like any place with a dress code if i don't want to wear their uniform I can chose to go elsewhere. Just because she is a christian does not mean she gets to decide what their dress code is. If they fired her for dressing in a manner that others were allowed then she would have a case, but since the uniform is applied universally and she was informed of that then she has no discrimination case. The uniform is not there to piss off her religion. it is there so that all employees are recognizeable as employees, and to provide a uniform presentation by all of the staff in burger king. It is not prejudiced, it is simply their presentation and she can go elsewhere if she cannot comply.

    her suit is bull**** and it will be nice when she is slapped with a bill for burger king's legal expenses for her failed lawsuit.

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    LOL no, more like BK either cooperates or they get sued. No waivers, we go to litigation and BK spends more on settling out of court then they would have spent on this young lady's wages and printing a memo allowing skirts. No waiver either way.

    This entitlement mentality is only going to get real business owners in more and more trouble.
    Perhaps, but BK can argue that the pants in the uniform are designed for worker safety. That is a decent argument and if the employee is willing to sign a waiver on any personal injury for not following the uniform, I see no problem here. BK can win the PR war at the same time accommodating the religious beliefs.

    Furthermore, if BK gives in, this is not a good sign for business. Basically any religious belief, crazy or otherwise trumps all regulations a business creates.

    The notion that religious beliefs trumps an owner's right to do as his pleases within reason in his business bothers me. What's next? Ban pork because Jews and Muslims find it unkosher/unhalal?
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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    LOL no, more like BK either cooperates or they get sued. No waivers, we go to litigation and BK spends more on settling out of court then they would have spent on this young lady's wages and printing a memo allowing skirts. No waiver either way.

    This entitlement mentality is only going to get real business owners in more and more trouble.
    the nice thing is that today you get to pay the opponent's legal expenses when you make obviously wrong lawsuits.

    i say we all support burger King in their fight to deny the fascism of religious fascists. next wednesday everyone should eat burger king to show their support of telling christians you don't own the world. i was looking for somewhere to spend all that money I was not spending at chik fil a.

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Perhaps, but BK can argue that the pants in the uniform are designed for worker safety. That is a decent argument and if the employee is willing to sign a waiver on any personal injury for not following the uniform, I see no problem here. BK can win the PR war at the same time accommodating the religious beliefs.

    Furthermore, if BK gives in, this is not a good sign for business. Basically any religious belief, crazy or otherwise trumps all regulations a business creates.

    The notion that religious beliefs trumps an owner's right to do as his pleases within reason in his business bothers me. What's next? Ban pork because Jews and Muslims find it unkosher/unhalal?
    they just need one argument. this is the women's uniform so she was not wearing men's clothing.

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    I was once hired as a tech at a casino and I was upfront about my criminal record. I was told that it would not be a problem. 3 months later I was fired because of my record.

    Moral of the story: Just because a manager tells you you can do something it does not mean that they cannot later rescind what they said.
    yes, because we all know the guy hiring at the local burger king speaks for the owners of that franchise and can make any rules he wants.

    All that aside, where the hell is this girl's father? he is clearly ignoring the strict word of the bible which says he needs to either beat his daughter, or stone her to death. They follow the strict view of the bible so they should follow all of it and not just the rules they want. perhaps since the father failed to discipline her society should step in and stone her as per the bible? We wouldn't want her to miss the stoning she says she deserves and go to hell for her transgressions. I love all these religious nuts when they want something that is comfortable for them, but when the actual sacrifice is required of them then she is just a 17 year old american girl protected by the laws she wishes she did not have to follow.

    If they let her get away with this i am starting up a religion for trannies where it is against the religion for person born male to wear pants, or a person born female to wear a skirt or dress.

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    BK is a private business. They have a dress code that is not in place because of religious discrimination. If the girl cannot abide by their dress code because of her religion, she should not work there. It is not BK's responsibility to alter their dress code to accommodate her. It is irrelevant as to whether it would be easy for them or not.

    IF an interviewer told her that it was OK, that interviewer should be fired. I do not know whether what the interviewer said would have an impact on the lawsuit, but if the dress code is clearly stated in BK's codes of conduct, I don't think the girl has any leg to stand on.
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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Furthermore, if BK gives in, this is not a good sign for business. Basically any religious belief, crazy or otherwise trumps all regulations a business creates.
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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    Ever been to a Buddhist temple or church? As a Buddhist, I can tell you from experience most Buddhist temples have no money. LOL! Sure, some do, but most are far from having money. If they had to accommodate people with disabilities under the ADA Buddhism would barely survive in the U.S.

    It will be interesting to see what happens in the next 10 years as Boomers hit retirement age full force. Will religious organizations see a resurgence in membership? If so, will they accommodate a suddenly huge demographic of disabled people?
    Religious organizations are exempt from the ADA in section 307. These organizations can comply and many do as the attendance at these religious groups by members and their families may be contingent upon them having access as a matter of course, but , not as a matter of law.

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