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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    i absolutely agree with this. No reason they couldnt. But they should not be legally obligated. Thats where the problem is
    The problem is they hired her. If they had turned her away at the interview it may be a different issue, but they hired her.

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    I'm going to have to walk away from this before I lose my temper.

    I'm very passionate about this subject, because I have seen FAR too many people abused by their employer, and feel like they had to just "take it" because they feared they could not find another job that would pay adequately. I've had to comfort too many crying female employees who'd been badly mistreated by their boss to find this at all amusing. I've seen too many people fired, losing their livelihood, for total bull**** that amounted to "didn't kiss the boss' ass nicely enough", who spent months or in some cases YEARS trying to find a decent job in the aftermath.

    I guess some of you have been lucky not to have to deal with crap like this, but if you haven't seen it I'm telling you it is everywhere these days.

    No one should be allowed to abuse, mistreat or trample the rights of a citizen just because they are an employer.

    On that note, g'nite.

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    As with anything else in the Rights debate it depends on what right is being "violated" and whether the other persons rights supersede the other persons rights or not.
    IMHO individual rights supersede a business's rights. OTOH if an actress (and basically a cashier at a BK is an actress) refuses to wear a costume there is no reason for them to be there. It would ruin the show.

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    which would almost make sense but to some (not me) religion is bull**** similar toarkvoozle telling you a hair color. how do you pick and choose which beliefs to honor?

    Just because you believe religion is bull**** doesn't mean you get to dictate what others believe, or how they practice their beliefs if they are doing you no harm.

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    For goodness sake, they're asking her to wear pants.

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    If the religious dress code is something that, to the person involved is SO IMPORTANT that, in their mind it is something they are not allowed to compromise on, and it will not adversely effect their ability to perform the job or the jobsites ability to function, then yes it should be accomodated if possible.

    This is a trivial accomodation. Trivial.
    It being trivial or not is irrelevent. (and subjective)

    So, if I get a job at a church and it was "SO IMPORTANT that, in my mind it is something I'm are not allowed to compromise on" that I wear a satanic symbol pin on my shirt should the church be able to fire me or not?
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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    I haven't seen any court say that employers have to accomodate the Hajib. And if they have their dumb***** for saying so. In all the cases that I have seen regarding Hijab's the employers willingly cooperated with the person. Particularly after a media frenzy.
    Here, you go. This is interesting as a matter of background.

    I would add that it settles nothing for either side in the religious rights at work argument.

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    it's also called kiss the boss' ass or he can fire you for nothing. I live in a "right to work state" so I know firsthand. An employer can typically fire an employee and not suffer any great or lasting financial harm... but when an employee is fired they typically just lost most or ALL of their income, they may or may not be able find another job or draw unemployment, so they might lose their house, their transportation...

    The employer->employee relationship is one where the EMPLOYER has almost all the power... it HAS to be regulated to prevent abuse by the more powerful entity in the relationship.

    Protecting the weak from the strong is the essence of government. The strong don't NEED protection, they protect themselves... but we can't all be strong in EVERY aspect of life all the time.


    Yeah..

    It is their property and so they can remove you from it and tell you to never come back for no reason what so ever. Why? Because its their property. Are they hurting you financially? Perhaps. Is it violating your rights? No. Is it the governments job to make sure we never get hurt financially? No. Do you have a case legally? Perhaps. Should you? No.
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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    This story is such bull**** on both sides.

    You don't sue because a given place won't let you wear a skirt, and the business could very, very easily just allow long black skirts.
    Jerry - you gain weight man? Your face looks fuller. You look good bro.

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    And they could allow it - but that would mean changing their dress code. Which they shouldn't have to do in order to accomodate 1 zealot.
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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    I'm going to have to walk away from this before I lose my temper.

    I'm very passionate about this subject, because I have seen FAR too many people abused by their employer, and feel like they had to just "take it" because they feared they could not find another job that would pay adequately. I've had to comfort too many crying female employees who'd been badly mistreated by their boss to find this at all amusing. I've seen too many people fired, losing their livelihood, for total bull**** that amounted to "didn't kiss the boss' ass nicely enough", who spent months or in some cases YEARS trying to find a decent job in the aftermath.

    I guess some of you have been lucky not to have to deal with crap like this, but if you haven't seen it I'm telling you it is everywhere these days.

    No one should be allowed to abuse, mistreat or trample the rights of a citizen just because they are an employer.

    On that note, g'nite.
    I live in a right to work state to (Idaho). I've been on the recieving end of what you describe. Yet I still believe the way I do.
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