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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    it is not law that I know of. You can show me the law if you'd like.

    Title VII of the Civil Rights Act.


    Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    That is not what is happening in this case. The lady wanted to fulfil her religious obligation to wear a skirt. She says the interviewer told her it would be ok. Then she was fired for not wearing pants.

    Allowing someone to wear a skirt while working at BK is a minor accomodation that hurts no one. Also, as Turtle pointed out, IT IS THE LAW that reasonable accomodation must be made for religious requirements if it is feasible to do so in the worksite in question. In this case there is no question that a skirt would harm nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    If the dress code was due to safety reasons then I do not believe she would have a basis for suit as she would not be able to perform due to safty reasons. If it is a simple dress code and the employer said no based upon her religion then I believe she could go forward and sue. Unless it caused undue hardship on the employer(see below)


    If the manger had the authority to speak for BK yes they could bind the corporation.

    An accommodation is not a matter of right in as much as if it is practicable and does not cause undue hardship then those who are subject to these laws must comply.

    "The term “religion” includes all aspects of religious observance and practice, as well as belief, unless an employer demonstrates that he is unable to reasonably accommodate to an employee’s or prospective employee’s religious observance or practice without undue hardship on the conduct of the employer’s business."

    Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    You're the one being absurd, sir. Are you going to try to claim that there is not and never has been sexual abuse of employees by their bosses?
    Dude, I have no reason to even fight for a claim I never made. You can have fun in the corner with yourself. I have no plans of going over there with you.

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Is it part of the Christian religion that women cannot wear pants?
    there are a couple sects of christianity where women cannot wear pants.
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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Right. So you prefer to let employers dictate to employees, and tell them if they want to be employed they will have to give up the dictates of their conscience, violate their own deeply held beliefs, and either suffer the guilt this choice will impose on them or else suffer unemployment... even if the accomodation is a TRIVIAL minor thing.

    Really?

    Damn.
    Thier beliefs do not trump someone elses beliefs. And no one has a Right to a job.
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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Is it part of the Christian religion that women cannot wear pants?

    No, just certain sects like the Pentecostals. To them it is a big thing.

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Thier beliefs do not trump someone elses beliefs. And no one has a Right to a job.
    They have a right not to be discriminated against in hiring because of their religion.

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    We ALREADY put legal limits on what the employer can demand of the employee... like 40 hour weeks and overtime, child labor laws, sexual harassment laws, OSHA safety regulations... and oh yes, a little law that says you have to try to make reasonable accomodation for religious requirements if possible. LIke this one.
    Oh don't get me wrong. I think BK is wrong in this instance and should apologize, offer to hire the woman back, and generally make nice. The last thing you want is bad news cycles about your business being anti-Christian.

    I just think that BK should also have the legal right to do this if they chose. I recognize the current law - I think the current law is destructive to liberty.

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    Frankly, I'm surprised BK doesn't have this covered somehow in the written contract with employees.
    It's called an employee handbook.

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Oh don't get me wrong. I think BK is wrong in this instance and should apologize, offer to hire the woman back, and generally make nice. The last thing you want is bad news cycles about your business being anti-Christian.

    I just think that BK should also have the legal right to do this if they chose. I recognize the current law - I think the current law is destructive to liberty.

    Letting employers run roughshod over employees, like many did back in the 1930's, would be destructive to liberty. What use political liberty if you are, for all intents and purposes, a slave to your employer?

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