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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    No it's not. That's their job. Their existence is ridiculous. If an employer wants to ask its' employees to wear pants, skirts, or nothing at all in order to perform the job - the job belongs to the employer. Not the employee. Folks shouldn't take jobs that would require them to violate their conscience and then expect special treatment when they refuse to do so.

    We ALREADY put legal limits on what the employer can demand of the employee... like 40 hour weeks and overtime, child labor laws, sexual harassment laws, OSHA safety regulations... and oh yes, a little law that says you have to try to make reasonable accomodation for religious requirements if possible. LIke this one.

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    theere is a question of harm. the chain reaction it could set off. we also do not know what took place in the interview other than her claims. Furthermore they did not let her wear a skirt for a while then changed their mind. She was told no at her first attempt to wear a skirt to work.
    Say, did you miss the part where its a law?

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    -absurd excuse snipped
    This is not being forced to suck a dick and its simply not comparable. There is no reason what so ever I should humor your absurdity.

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    The problem with accommodating one, is that you have to accommodate all, and where does it end? I believe in freedom, but there are times and places where you just have to suck it up, like at work and school.

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    So you're saying you prefer to let businesses dictate to people over their individual conscience, even when accomodating them would do no harm... really?
    If the person wants to work there....yes. If you go to Germany would you have to follow thier laws? Or should they accomodate your religious belief that all male Germans should have mustaches and all female Germans look like Helga?

    Or if you want another example a bit closer to home would you agree to the government requireing that you allow someones religion dictate the people that you let into your home?

    Thier property, their rules. You have a choice to go there or not. If you go there then you accept to abide by their rules.
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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    jobs have requirements. For instance if you were out of work and looking really really hard for employement I wouldnt be able to hire you unless you met certain criteria and were willing to adhere to my companies policies. How tough the employment market is isnt going to come into play. If you cannot abide by the rules in your employee handbook, you'd be let go.
    And if the handbook violates one's rights......

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    I have been involved with employment discrimination cases quite extensively on a variety of levels for the claimant at times and for the employer at other times and have worked closely with investigators . It is rare that the EEOC files an actual lawsuit on behalf of an individual and the investigation process is quite extensive.

    This is the process used by the EEOC.....




    The Charge Handling Process
    i am not going to claim to have any experience in employment discrimination as it has never come up. However when BK denies telling her it was ok, and it is a case of he said/she said and BK has a handbook that she likely signed off on saying she read, understood and agreed to follow I cant see this going well in court for her. Her case does not appear provable.
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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Because telling you to keep your religious crap at home is uncalled for. Right...
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    No more uncalled for than telling you to keep your anti-religious crap at home, bud. Or to leave your dignity at home, or your whatever.

    There are rules about how employers can treat employees... get over it. They are employees, NOT SLAVES.

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    And if the handbook violates one's rights......
    i dont think that is appliciable here. However if a handbook violated peoples rights then the handbook would be wrong.
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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    That is not what is happening in this case. The lady wanted to fulfil her religious obligation to wear a skirt. She says the interviewer told her it would be ok. Then she was fired for not wearing pants.

    Allowing someone to wear a skirt while working at BK is a minor accomodation that hurts no one. Also, as Turtle pointed out, IT IS THE LAW that reasonable accomodation must be made for religious requirements if it is feasible to do so in the worksite in question. In this case there is no question that a skirt would harm nothing.

    I respect your opinion.


    But I do not agree. What is all this business of accommodation? You can stretch it only that far.... this PC thing ... anyway

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