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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Though that should be respected and allowed, obviously.
    As long as they shave their legs.

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Fair is fair.


    No Jihab in work place, no fundamental long dresses either.

    In other words....no religious fundamentalism of any kind in the work place thank you very much!

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    And if no employer would accomodate her then I guess you'd say she is free to starve to death then?

    Jobs don't fall off trees like apples these days.
    most jobs dont have a uniform and many that do allow skirts or pants. Very few places of employment do not allow skirts at all.
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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    As long as they shave their legs.
    Fat chance

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    She says the interviewer told her she could wear the skirt.

    Verbal contract.
    Assuming she is telling the truth.

    But lets assume that she was. Was the guy that did the hiring allowed to make such a promise? Does he have that authority? If not then it would not be legally binding.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Dude, think about it... employers can be damn near as oppressive as any dictatorial government. The dictator has you in his palm because he has the Secret Police and all that crap... the EMPLOYER has you by the purse strings, by the way you make your living and pay your bills and support your family. The economy is bad and jobs are hard to come by.... and let me tell ya, lots of employers are seizing this opportunity to squeeze their employees as hard as they can, and pile as much stupid control-freak **** on them as they can get away with.... and that is a LOT because so many people are desperate to keep their jobs.
    An employee still has a choice as to where they work. Yeah times are tough. I completely agree. And yes I agree that employers can be just as bad as any dictorial government. But they are no more "all powerful" than a dictorial government is.

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Mya View Post
    Fair is fair.


    No Jihab in work place, no fundamental long dresses either.

    In other words....no religious fundamentalism of any kind in the work place thank you very much!

    Right. So you prefer to let employers dictate to employees, and tell them if they want to be employed they will have to give up the dictates of their conscience, violate their own deeply held beliefs, and either suffer the guilt this choice will impose on them or else suffer unemployment... even if the accomodation is a TRIVIAL minor thing.

    Really?

    Damn.

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    most jobs dont have a uniform and many that do allow skirts or pants. Very few places of employment do not allow skirts at all.

    Maybe BK was the only job she could find that actually offered her employment. Times are tough. And again, this is a trivial, minor accomodation.

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    You do realize the EEOC is not a court of law and they are acting based on what this woman has told them right?
    I have been involved with employment discrimination cases quite extensively on a variety of levels for the claimant at times and for the employer at other times and have worked closely with investigators . It is rare that the EEOC files an actual lawsuit on behalf of an individual and the investigation process is quite extensive.

    This is the process used by the EEOC.....


    Possible Dismissal
    If the EEOC does not have jurisdiction, or if your charge is untimely, we will close your charge quickly. We may also close your charge quickly if we decide that we probably will not be able to find discrimination. If your charge is dismissed, you will be notified.

    Investigation
    How we investigate a charge depends on the facts of the case and the kinds of information we need to gather. In some cases, we visit the employer to hold interviews and gather documents. In other cases, we interview witnesses over the phone and ask for documents by mail. After we finish our investigation, we will let you and the employer know the result.

    How long the investigation takes depends on a lot of different things, including the amount of information that needs to be gathered and analyzed. It took us – on average – nearly 6 months to investigate a charge in 2004. We are often able to settle a charge faster through mediation (usually in less than 3 months).

    Subpoena
    If an employer refuses to cooperate with an EEOC investigation, EEOC can issue an administrative subpoena to obtain documents, testimony or gain access to facilities.

    Possible Action After Investigation Completed
    If we haven’t found a violation of the law, we will send you a Notice-of-Right-to-Sue. This notice gives you permission to file a lawsuit in a court of law. If we find a violation, we will try to reach a voluntary settlement with the employer. If we cannot reach a settlement, your case will be referred to our legal staff (or the Department of Justice in certain cases), who will decide whether or not the agency should file a lawsuit. If we decide not to file a lawsuit, we will give you a Notice-of-Right-to-Sue.
    The Charge Handling Process

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Right. So you prefer to let employers dictate to employees, and tell them if they want to be employed they will have to give up the dictates of their conscience, violate their own deeply held beliefs, and either suffer the guilt this choice will impose on them or else suffer unemployment... even if the accomodation is a TRIVIAL minor thing.

    Really?

    Damn.

    No Goshin ... I only say that if you are a religious fundamentalist - left or right- do not try to push your ideas on your employers throat.

    That's all.

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    That is not the case in this instance
    Actually it is the case in this instance. BK has a clear, well known policy that a uniform is required and that that uniform is a shirt and slacks. This woman knew about it and she still went looking for a job there.
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