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    Norway court deems Breivik sane, sentences killer to prison Read more: http://www.fo

    THis is what I like about my state.Some scumbag murders 77 people he will get the death penalty and there is no chance he will see the light of day outside of prison.Apparently Norwegians don't give a rats ass about the victims.

    Norway court deems Breivik sane, sentences killer to prison | Fox News
    OSLO, Norway A Norwegian court sentenced Anders Behring Breivik to prison on Friday, denying prosecutors the insanity ruling they hoped would show that his massacre of 77 people was the work of a madman, not part of an anti-Muslim crusade.

    Breivik smiled with apparent satisfaction when Judge Wenche Elisabeth Arntzen read the ruling, declaring him sane enough to be held criminally responsible and sentencing him to "preventive detention," which means it is unlikely he will ever be released.
    The sentence brings a form of closure to Norway, which was shaken to its core by the bomb and gun attacks on July 22, 2011, because Breivik's lawyers said before the ruling that he would not appeal any ruling that did not declare him insane.
    But it also means Breivik got what he wanted: a ruling that paints him as a political terrorist instead of a psychotic mass murderer. Since his arrest, Breivik has said the attacks were meant to draw attention to his extreme right-wing ideology and to inspire a multi-decade uprising by "militant nationalists" across Europe.
    Prosecutors had argued Breivik was insane as he plotted his attacks to draw attention to a rambling "manifesto" that blamed Muslim immigration for the disintegration of European society.
    Breivik argued that authorities were trying to cast him as sick to cast doubt on his political views, and said during the trial that being sent to an insane asylum would be the worst thing that could happen to him.
    "He has always seen himself as sane so he isn't surprised by the ruling," Breivik's defense lawyer Geir Lippestad said.
    The five-judge panel in the Oslo district court unanimously convicted Breivik, 33, of terrorism and premeditated murder and ordered him imprisoned for a period between 10 and 21 years, the maximum allowed under Norwegian law. Such sentences can be extended as long as an inmate is considered too dangerous to be released, and legal experts say Breivik will almost certainly spend the rest of his life in prison


    To get an idea of what his prison cell will look like.
    Fengselet kan gasse Breivik - nyheter - Dagbladet.no
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Norway court deems Breivik sane, sentences killer to prison Read more: http://ww

    Let's do some math! If he serves 21 years in prison, that's about 3.2 months in prison per murder victim, and he would be 54 when released. If he serves 10 years in prison, that's 1.5 months in prison per murder victim, and he would be 43 when released.

    Pardon me, but... What. The. ****. How is that a guilty verdict for murder x77 and terrorism? Why have a max sentence period of 21 years and then just leave it up to some subjective assessment about whether the person is "still dangerous?"


    Yeah, we should do everything just like the Scandinavians, all right.

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    Re: Norway court deems Breivik sane, sentences killer to prison Read more: http://ww

    As ridiculous as this seems, the Scandinavians have a completely different POV than we do. They also have a much higher quality of life, personal freedom and lower crime rate.

    We have state sanctioned killings. This is as alien to them as their moderate sentencing is to us.

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    Re: Norway court deems Breivik sane, sentences killer to prison Read more: http://ww

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    As ridiculous as this seems, the Scandinavians have a completely different POV than we do. They also have a much higher quality of life, personal freedom and lower crime rate.

    We have state sanctioned killings. This is as alien to them as their moderate sentencing is to us.
    Defending the indefensible is never a good idea.

    And I have been to Scandinavia many times. You are GREATLY overstating their quality of life.

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    Re: Norway court deems Breivik sane, sentences killer to prison Read more: http://ww

    There was a Norwegian black metal musician by the name of Kristian Vikernes (who changed his first name to Varg) who was found guilty of murdering a former band mate in cold blood. He served 16 years of a 21 year sentence and has been on parole since 2009. He was also found guilty of arson, burning down several old Christian churches.

    Varg Vikernes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Given that the man is completely unrepentant it baffles me why he got an early release, much less why Norway would continue the farce of not imposing life sentences on people.
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    Re: Norway court deems Breivik sane, sentences killer to prison Read more: http://ww

    Maybe because it works for them, better than the American revenge system works for you.
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    Re: Norway court deems Breivik sane, sentences killer to prison Read more: http://ww

    Ahh the ignorance in this thread is ....

    First off.. The maximum sentence is 21 years with a minimum of 10 years. Yes that sounds bad.. BUT get this.. there is this thing called Forvaring.

    This means when his time gets to 10 years.. or 21 years, then he goes in front of a panel who will see if he is a danger to society. Now what do you think that panel will say? Okay that is another decade behind bars... and then a new round... with the same result.

    Bottom line, he is behind bars for life and zero chance of getting out.
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    Re: Norway court deems Breivik sane, sentences killer to prison Read more: http://ww

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Ahh the ignorance in this thread is ....

    First off.. The maximum sentence is 21 years with a minimum of 10 years. Yes that sounds bad.. BUT get this.. there is this thing called Forvaring.

    This means when his time gets to 10 years.. or 21 years, then he goes in front of a panel who will see if he is a danger to society. Now what do you think that panel will say? Okay that is another decade behind bars... and then a new round... with the same result.

    Bottom line, he is behind bars for life and zero chance of getting out.
    Zero chance of getting out? That does not seem true. Why waste the time and resources of assembling panels and having regular reviews if there is no chance?

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    Re: Norway court deems Breivik sane, sentences killer to prison Read more: http://ww

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    Zero chance of getting out? That does not seem true. Why waste the time and resources of assembling panels and having regular reviews if there is no chance?
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    Re: Norway court deems Breivik sane, sentences killer to prison Read more: http://ww

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Ahh the ignorance in this thread is ....

    First off.. The maximum sentence is 21 years with a minimum of 10 years. Yes that sounds bad.. BUT get this.. there is this thing called Forvaring.

    This means when his time gets to 10 years.. or 21 years, then he goes in front of a panel who will see if he is a danger to society. Now what do you think that panel will say? Okay that is another decade behind bars... and then a new round... with the same result.

    Bottom line, he is behind bars for life and zero chance of getting out.
    Varg Vikernes was given a leave to visit his family while serving his sentence for murder. The police found him while on this leave in a stolen car full of guns and ammunition.

    A few years later, he was granted parole.

    You'll pardon me if I'm not quite as confident as you are in expecting his permanent incarceration.
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