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    Norway court deems Breivik sane, sentences killer to prison Read more: http://www.fo

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    A declaration does not, but psychology research certain supports the argument.



    Now where is your evidence?
    Evidence for what? I never made a statement one way or the other - I care about inflicting punishment on the criminal.

    The above does not support his position btw. Every individual does not respond the same way, it argues tendency amongst groups.

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    Re: Norway court deems Breivik sane, sentences killer to prison Read more: http://ww

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben K. View Post
    Evidence for what? I never made a statement one way or the other.
    So then you admit his statement is supported by research, then and that it wasn't worthy of the dismissal you gave it.

    The above does not support his position btw. Every individual does not respond the same way, it argues tendency amongst groups.
    Fortunately, Norway fits into that group. And maybe not every individual responds that way, but the argument, as is the case for all arguments, is generalized so your criticism doesn't hold much water.

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    Norway court deems Breivik sane, sentences killer to prison Read more: http://www.fo

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    So then you admit his statement is supported by research, then and that it wasn't worthy of the dismissal you gave it.


    Fortunately, Norway fits into that group. And maybe not every individual responds that way, but the argument, as is the case for all arguments, is generalized so your criticism doesn't hold much water.
    No, since he didn't support his statement. And not all arguments are generalised, behavioural science just isn't a particularly hard science.

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    Norway court deems Breivik sane, sentences killer to prison Read more: http://www.fo

    You should also try reading your own article. I'm not seeing an instance where the death of a loved one could be "trivialised".

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    Re: Norway court deems Breivik sane, sentences killer to prison Read more: http://ww

    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckBerry View Post
    There was a Norwegian black metal musician by the name of Kristian Vikernes (who changed his first name to Varg) who was found guilty of murdering a former band mate in cold blood. He served 16 years of a 21 year sentence and has been on parole since 2009. He was also found guilty of arson, burning down several old Christian churches.

    Varg Vikernes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Given that the man is completely unrepentant it baffles me why he got an early release, much less why Norway would continue the farce of not imposing life sentences on people.
    They should have kept him in prison based solely on Burzum.
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    Re: Norway court deems Breivik sane, sentences killer to prison Read more: http://ww

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    If some guy only got only 1.5 - 3.2 months for murdering one of your loved ones how would you feel? Not only that you had to pay for his dormitory,horseback riding and other luxuries, how would that make you feel? Most people who actually cared about their loved ones would feel as though the government just installed toilet over their loved ones grave.
    I'm still waiting for you to explain how this is your problem.

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    Re: Norway court deems Breivik sane, sentences killer to prison Read more: http://ww

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    I'm still waiting for you to explain how this is your problem.
    Why wouldn't any tax payer and victim of a crime have problem with it? Tax payers and victims in Norway should be appalled by this. My worry is that **** could spread over here if scumbag sympathizers were ever successful in abolishing the death penalty.
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    Re: Norway court deems Breivik sane, sentences killer to prison Read more: http://ww

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Why wouldn't any tax payer and victim of a crime have problem with it? Tax payers and victims in Norway should be appalled by this. My worry is that **** could spread over here if scumbag sympathizers were ever successful in abolishing the death penalty.
    I wouldn't worry about that too much because I doubt what they do will have any effect on us. Norway does what they want with their civilians, we do what we want with ours, simple as that.
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    Re: Norway court deems Breivik sane, sentences killer to prison Read more: http://ww

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Why wouldn't any tax payer and victim of a crime have problem with it? Tax payers and victims in Norway should be appalled by this. My worry is that **** could spread over here if scumbag sympathizers were ever successful in abolishing the death penalty.
    You aren't a taxpayer in Norway, nor a victim. And I don't suppose you realize the level of irony you've achieved by trying to change how another country operates while at the same time opposing any other country's attempt to influence the USA?

    For example you're afraid that Norway's justice system will be imported to the USA, against all reason and logic you believe that I guess. Therefore we need to have a discussion about they should build their own justice system, going against all principles of self determination and democracy by trying to influence how they handle their own problems. BUT if we talk about say that Arms Treaty that died in the UN, which you wrongfully believed was going to strip us of all our 2nd amendment rights then other country's have no business messing with us even if they perhaps fear "those crazy Americans and their guns" the same way you fear "those crazy liberals and their scumbag sympathizes."

    Seriously are you that paranoid and fearful that you are worried about an importation of the Norwegian justice system? Is that the best thing you can come up with to justice your outrage? Do you know how completely ridiculous that sounds? Are you suggesting its reasonable to go about worrying about such things? Please, don't be silly.

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    Re: Norway court deems Breivik sane, sentences killer to prison Read more: http://ww

    They will keep him indefinitely detained. There is a mechanism in Norwegian law that allows them to do so in special cases.
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