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    Re: Multiple People Shot Outside Empire State Building

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Crime drops in armed populations. Gun control increases crime.
    Which is why the US has a far lower crime rate then Canada or why suburban areas in the US have lower crime rates then the unarmed innner cities


    Arming the population is how you prevent having to fight for you life, because an armed population is a very strong deterrence.
    That seems to work in the inner city very effectively, and if I recall correctly the US west durining the late 1800s was crime and violence free
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    Re: Multiple People Shot Outside Empire State Building

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    The fact that trained proffessionals shot 9 bystanders, I shudder to think what would happen if a large number of people with that level of training were carrying guns. Would a small gun fight turn out to be an entire block of people turning and shooting at each other as people join in without an undestanding of what initially happened
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    Re: Multiple People Shot Outside Empire State Building

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
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    The fact that trained proffessionals shot 9 bystanders, I shudder to think what would happen if a large number of people with that level of training were carrying guns. Would a small gun fight turn out to be an entire block of people turning and shooting at each other as people join in without an undestanding of what initially happened
    the average cop shoots less than 200 rounds a year

    the average CCW holder shoots far far more. MOst CCW holders-at least in the classes I taught, were hard core gun enthusiasts who see shooting as their main recreational activity

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    Re: Multiple People Shot Outside Empire State Building

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
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    The fact that trained proffessionals shot 9 bystanders, I shudder to think what would happen if a large number of people with that level of training were carrying guns. Would a small gun fight turn out to be an entire block of people turning and shooting at each other as people join in without an undestanding of what initially happened

    I don't think you understand enough of the situation to make such a critique. It's not like they directly hit all 9 bystanders and when you have a maniac swinging a .45 on a busy Friday morning NYC sidewalk you don't have time to wait for everyone to clear zone the shooter.
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    Re: Multiple People Shot Outside Empire State Building

    9 of 10 victims were injured by respondents? This sure didn't turn out to support conservative theory quite the way some were trying to use it, did it? Maybe people shouldnt be so quick to jump the gun (so to speak) next time?

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    Re: Multiple People Shot Outside Empire State Building

    According to a new report the nypd are the ones that wounded everyone.
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    Re: Multiple People Shot Outside Empire State Building

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    According to a new report the nypd are the ones that wounded everyone.
    Sounds like maybe cops shooting a suspect in a crowd wasn't such a good judgement call, doesn't it?
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    Re: Multiple People Shot Outside Empire State Building

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Sounds like maybe cops shooting a suspect in a crowd wasn't such a good judgement call, doesn't it?
    The cops did the right thing, better to shoot a few people by accident than be afraid to shoot a nut job that intends to shoot as many people as possible.

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    Re: Multiple People Shot Outside Empire State Building

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Sounds like maybe cops shooting a suspect in a crowd wasn't such a good judgement call, doesn't it?
    How many lives did they save by taking him out?

    Do you realize some were wounded due to fragments?
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    Re: Multiple People Shot Outside Empire State Building

    OK, so maybe shooting the perp was the right thing, but the cops who missed need to spend more time on the target range.
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