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    Re: Obama Warns Syria on Chemical Weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    Yes a better world order. A world order in which autocratic regimes are pressured and in which democratic regimes are secured and expanded throughout the globe. A world led by the US as the head of the democratic alliance is the best that currently exists. Also yes utilitarianism is appropriate in pursuit of this objective. That being said I absolutely do not accept your definition or moral valuation on the things you listed.
    Ahh yes...the old standby...'the ends justify the means'.

    The new WORLD ORDER!!!

    Sieg Heil!!!


    Have a nice day.
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    Re: Obama Warns Syria on Chemical Weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    The warning should have come from the U.N.
    The same UN who stood by in Rwandan Massacre? The same UN who doesn't have the balls to go into Somalia by itself without US help? The same UN who has done absolutely nothing of any significance in Sudan? The same UN who did nothing about the slaughtering of Zapatista rebels? I honestly support our allegiance to the UN because it serves as a good diplomatic link but to expect them to grow a backbone and give a warning when there are hundreds of little inside deals going on in its buildings is a bit ridiculous.
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    Re: Obama Warns Syria on Chemical Weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    That isn't how this works. You alleged a ludicrous conspiracy theory, of course there are no links saying "President Obama NOT planning to smuggle chemical weapons to the FSA", there is however the deafening evidence coming from the present situation and precedent.
    I will take that as a 'no'.

    Thank you.


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    Re: Obama Warns Syria on Chemical Weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    He didn't send 1,300 Americans to their deaths, he led a country in the midst of a war. I don't like the President, and don't plan on voting for him, but I refuse your characterization. Also your comparison is silly, there is a difference between leading a war which is judged to be legitimate, and engaging in the sort of convoluted nefarious action you are talking about.
    In other words...you fail to take a stand on this.

    Noted.


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    Re: Obama Warns Syria on Chemical Weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Ahh yes...the old standby...'the ends justify the means'.

    The new WORLD ORDER!!!

    Sieg Heil!!!


    Have a nice day.
    Yes, a new world order is a positive thing and something we have been working towards since George H.W. Bush's address to congress in the early 1990's. Since that time democracy has floured or begun to emerge in Eastern Europe, the Balkans, large swathes of Africa, South and Latin America, East Asia, and even the Middle East. It is undeniable that the position of the US as global democratic hegemon has played a critical role in enabling it. The coming dividing lines in the 21st Century are between the autocratic powers like Russia and China and their allies around their world. They are far more willing to support flagging autocracies and support the spread of like minded regimes. I want to contain their threat and spread democratic liberalism and contest control over the strategic regions of the world such as Central Asia, the Caucuses, Africa, etc.

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    Re: Obama Warns Syria on Chemical Weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    In other words...you fail to take a stand on this.

    Noted.


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    I've taken a stand, and I'm having a wonderful day.

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    Re: Obama Warns Syria on Chemical Weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    Yes, a new world order is a positive thing and something we have been working towards since George H.W. Bush's address to congress in the early 1990's. Since that time democracy has floured or begun to emerge in Eastern Europe, the Balkans, large swathes of Africa, South and Latin America, East Asia, and even the Middle East. It is undeniable that the position of the US as global democratic hegemon has played a critical role in enabling it. The coming dividing lines in the 21st Century are between the autocratic powers like Russia and China and their allies around their world. They are far more willing to support flagging autocracies and support the spread of like minded regimes. I want to contain their threat and spread democratic liberalism and contest control over the strategic regions of the world such as Central Asia, the Caucuses, Africa, etc.
    Okaaaaaaaaaaaay.

    I think I have a good idea of what you are about.

    I am done with you on this for now.



    You have a nice day now.
    Last edited by DA60; 08-26-12 at 03:26 AM.

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    Re: Obama Warns Syria on Chemical Weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Okaaaaaaaaaaaay.

    I think I have a good idea of what you are about.

    My work is done here.


    You have a nice day now.
    I'm glad you concede the irrationality of your remarks.

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    Re: Obama Warns Syria on Chemical Weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    I'm glad you concede the irrationality of your remarks.
    Lol...no, I do not concede that at all.

    But I do concede that I believe your New World Order opinions are un-American, dishonorable and dangerous and I do not see the point in wasting my time conversing with persons that hold such opinions dear to them.


    Have a nice day.

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    Re: Obama Warns Syria on Chemical Weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    President Threatens Military Response Against Against Any Use of the Banned Arms

    'WASHINGTON—President Barack Obama threatened military action against Syrian President Bashar al-Assad if his forces attempt to use chemical or biological weapons, the strongest indication yet Mr. Obama would consider intervening in the grinding conflict.

    The president's message appeared aimed at signaling to Mr. Assad that an American military option is open, but U.S. officials hoped the threat would be enough to dissuade the Syrian leader from using such weapons.'

    Obama Warns Syria on Chemical Weapons - WSJ.com
    It's unfortunate that you link to a WSJ article that only gives me a teaser and demands I subscribe in order to see the whole article. I decline to subscribe.

    Be that as it may, Obama is doing a disservice to our country.

    In this election year, the worst thing he could do is get us into another war...unless he thinks we can fight Syria from afar like we did in Libya. I have my doubts he can pull that kind of thing off again.

    So, what I see here is him posturing but not doing anything till after the election. In the meantime, other countries...both allies and non-allies...will see him as weak and ineffectual. This will decrease the influence we have over world affairs and encourage other countries to disregard our positions.

    Besides damaging our influence in the world, he increases the chances that some nutjob group will mount an attack on us directly. We've seen this before...typically as a result of the actions and inaction of Democratic Presidents.
    TANSTAAFL

    “An armed society is a polite society.”
    ― Robert A. Heinlein, Beyond This Horizon

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