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Obama Warns Syria on Chemical Weapons

In the ME, the power brokers rarely talk.. but as of today Iran is looking for a way to disengage from Syria because Assad is a lost cause.

In the past 3 weeks Adahminejah visited with King Abdullaah in Arabia and the Deputy Foreign Minister from Arabia is in Iran as we speak.

Lots of phone calls and I have NO doubt they are talking with Obama.

Right! I guess that's why Iran sent Revolutionary Gaurdsmen to support Assad.


Iran Admits Sending Soldiers to Support Syria's Army - Global - The Atlantic Wire
 
Iran SAID they sent Revolutionary Guards to Syria.

Ohhhh, is that it? :rofl

What evidence do you have to suggest that they're just talking smack?
 
Ohhhh, is that it? :rofl

What evidence do you have to suggest that they're just talking smack?

Because Iran does it all the time.. Press TV says 15,000 US troops were in Benghazi.. Total BS..

They do it ALL the time.

I am not saying that things can't possibly go wrong, but the buzz is that Saudi, Turkey and Egypt have "sidelined" the US.. Brilliant, IMO..
 
Because Iran does it all the time.. Press TV says 15,000 US troops were in Benghazi.. Total BS..

They do it ALL the time.

I am not saying that things can't possibly go wrong, but the buzz is that Saudi, Turkey and Egypt have "sidelined" the US.. Brilliant, IMO..

Still waiting for your evidence. Thanks!
 
Still waiting for your evidence. Thanks!



Crucial change in Iran’s stance on Syria

Realisation that unlimited support for a doomed Al Assad will be a disaster has led Tehran to search for an exit from the quagmire with Egypt and Turkey’s help
By Wadah Khanfar
Published: 00:00 September 2, 2012

A crucial shift is taking place in the Middle East towards the conflict in Syria. Egyptian President Mohammad Mursi’s call for Arab-Iranian-Turkish dialogue over the crisis and a safe transfer of power in Syria has been well received in Turkey and Iran. All these countries have a powerful interest in making such a dialogue work, which makes the chances of success far greater.

The context is clear enough. The Syrian rebels have made major gains. The revolution moved to a new phase after the July 18 attack in Damascus, which took the lives of several top security officials, a huge morale boost to the Free Syrian Army (FSA). It has since tried to secure a number of Syrian border crossings with Turkey and Iraq, and its fighters also established a military presence in Damascus and Aleppo, two cities which had been under the absolute control of the regime.

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Crucial change in Iran
 
Saudi Arabia is not supporting Assad.. and the last thing the SAG wants is to build nuclear weapons.. They are basically being forced into that position by Iran.

The GCC have been opposed to Hamas and Hezbollah for five years or so because they are obstacles to peace.

No of course not-- where did you get that from my post?
 
Because Iran does it all the time.. Press TV says 15,000 US troops were in Benghazi.. Total BS..

They do it ALL the time.

I am not saying that things can't possibly go wrong, but the buzz is that Saudi, Turkey and Egypt have "sidelined" the US.. Brilliant, IMO..

We've gotten some fairly detailed information about the type of IRGC troops that have been deployed to Syria, specifically troops from the Kurdish and Azeri provinces who have more direct experience in irregular and border warfare. I also strongly disagree with your Gulf News correspondent, I think Iran is not even close to throwing in the towel on Syria.
 
We've gotten some fairly detailed information about the type of IRGC troops that have been deployed to Syria, specifically troops from the Kurdish and Azeri provinces who have more direct experience in irregular and border warfare. I also strongly disagree with your Gulf News correspondent, I think Iran is not even close to throwing in the towel on Syria.

In nearly 70 years I have learned to listen to those in the Arab world who don't say much.

Please note that Adahminejahd and Bibi NEVER shut up....
 
In nearly 70 years I have learned to listen to those in the Arab world who don't say much.

Please note that Adahminejahd and Bibi NEVER shut up....

I work pretty exclusively in the Persian Gulf, specifically with Saudi Arabia, the Gulf States, and Yemen with much of my work dealing with policy. I won't have my arguments rest on anecdotes mind you but I do talk to people as well and I've heard next to nothing that would convince me that the narrative you are painting is actually taking shape.
 
Crucial change in Iran’s stance on Syria

Realisation that unlimited support for a doomed Al Assad will be a disaster has led Tehran to search for an exit from the quagmire with Egypt and Turkey’s help
By Wadah Khanfar
Published: 00:00 September 2, 2012

A crucial shift is taking place in the Middle East towards the conflict in Syria. Egyptian President Mohammad Mursi’s call for Arab-Iranian-Turkish dialogue over the crisis and a safe transfer of power in Syria has been well received in Turkey and Iran. All these countries have a powerful interest in making such a dialogue work, which makes the chances of success far greater.

The context is clear enough. The Syrian rebels have made major gains. The revolution moved to a new phase after the July 18 attack in Damascus, which took the lives of several top security officials, a huge morale boost to the Free Syrian Army (FSA). It has since tried to secure a number of Syrian border crossings with Turkey and Iraq, and its fighters also established a military presence in Damascus and Aleppo, two cities which had been under the absolute control of the regime.

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Crucial change in Iran

Op-eds aren't evidence. Sorry
 
I don't think so......

Remember Saddam and WMD - in what way is Obama different from Bush/Cheney RE: foreign policy?
 
Remember Saddam and WMD - in what way is Obama different from Bush/Cheney RE: foreign policy?

Obama isn't going to attack Iran.. I think Obama is better at foreign policy that Bush/Cheney... and you have to remember that Cheney was at the Pentagon and "directing" intelligence many, many times a month.

Remember... The PNAC couldn't trick Clinton into attacking Iraq.. and at the end of his administration Bush couldn't be tricked into attacking Iran.
 
Obama isn't going to attack Iran.. I think Obama is better at foreign policy that Bush/Cheney... and you have to remember that Cheney was at the Pentagon and "directing" intelligence many, many times a month.

I'm sure Obama has his own version of the Office of Special Plans/ the Rendon Group whether it is: in the State Dept/CFR(one and the same entity) with Hillary, the CIA supplanting newspapers via the AP/NYT, or in the Pentagon and their in house propaganda wing, the Rand Corporation.

Which ever think-tank is running the show (most likely the CFR) the process is indeed very much the same as Dick Cheney. The "intelligence" as it were, is shaped around the policy, and not vice versa. That is to say - LIES.


And how many Arab or Persian families will be decimated, shot, bombed, tortured, disappeared, the victims of death squads /militants secretly armed by the U.S. in Syria just like Reagan armed the Contras?

All these tens of thousands of murdered innocent civillians, men, women, and babies, so these CFR policies in service to the multinationals can draw up new privatized oil contracts?

How utterly ruthless this Obama is, and very much the NeoCon, just like Dick Cheney!
 
I'm sure Obama has his own version of the Office of Special Plans/ the Rendon Group whether it is: in the State Dept/CFR(one and the same entity) with Hillary, the CIA supplanting newspapers via the AP/NYT, or in the Pentagon and their in house propaganda wing, the Rand Corporation.

Which ever think-tank is running the show (most likely the CFR) the process is indeed very much the same as Dick Cheney. The "intelligence" as it were, is shaped around the policy, and not vice versa. That is to say - LIES.


And how many Arab or Persian families will be decimated, shot, bombed, tortured, disappeared, the victims of death squads /militants secretly armed by the U.S. in Syria just like Reagan armed the Contras?

All these tens of thousands of murdered innocent civillians, men, women, and babies, so these CFR policies in service to the multinationals can draw up new privatized oil contracts?

How utterly ruthless this Obama is, and very much the NeoCon, just like Dick Cheney!

Today the internet is buzzing with Debka's claims that NATO troops are on the ground in Syria..
 
President Threatens Military Response Against Against Any Use of the Banned Arms

'WASHINGTON—President Barack Obama threatened military action against Syrian President Bashar al-Assad if his forces attempt to use chemical or biological weapons, the strongest indication yet Mr. Obama would consider intervening in the grinding conflict.

The president's message appeared aimed at signaling to Mr. Assad that an American military option is open, but U.S. officials hoped the threat would be enough to dissuade the Syrian leader from using such weapons.'

Obama Warns Syria on Chemical Weapons - WSJ.com

This is a conflict we are already too involved in by allowing gun sales to the FSA and even talking about intervention. if there is intervention due to use of chemical weapons, it should be a coalition effort, a NATO involvement. It cannot be the US acting on its own or even possibly being perceived that way. We need to alter foreign policy to be at least slightly more isolationist. Not completely, but at least being only involved as much as other major countries.
 
I'm sure Obama has his own version of the Office of Special Plans/ the Rendon Group whether it is: in the State Dept/CFR(one and the same entity) with Hillary, the CIA supplanting newspapers via the AP/NYT, or in the Pentagon and their in house propaganda wing, the Rand Corporation.

Which ever think-tank is running the show (most likely the CFR) the process is indeed very much the same as Dick Cheney. The "intelligence" as it were, is shaped around the policy, and not vice versa. That is to say - LIES.


And how many Arab or Persian families will be decimated, shot, bombed, tortured, disappeared, the victims of death squads /militants secretly armed by the U.S. in Syria just like Reagan armed the Contras?

All these tens of thousands of murdered innocent civillians, men, women, and babies, so these CFR policies in service to the multinationals can draw up new privatized oil contracts?

How utterly ruthless this Obama is, and very much the NeoCon, just like Dick Cheney!

Today the internet is buzzing with Debka's claims that NATO troops are on the ground in Syria..

Yeah, some places are getting to the story, about 18 months too late.

See how this primary was a big circus to get the media off of NATOs
next big Iraq-type disaster?

How would 18 months of debate about Iraq 2.0 changed the electorate?

Perhaps to clamor for a third party President, instead of this NeoCon-in-sheeps-clothing black man?


Now you begin to see why the CFR puppet masters control the TV news, as well as the newspapers.





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Obama Warns Syria on Chemical Weapons


^ isn't this the same political turd that said we don't need to be fighting all these wars??????
 
Obama Warns Syria on Chemical Weapons


^ isn't this the same political turd that said we don't need to be fighting all these wars??????

Yep. Can't stand the guy. He's the black Reagan, only worse. One host says he's "Nixon without the Watergate,". Hillarious. He does have a Watergate though, with the Gunwalker Scandal.

The "Free Syrian Army," I must say, has a certain ring to it, like the CIA made it up. Like "Freedom Fighters" for the Contras. Anyways, Syria is a heinous war crime. Obama equals Bush.

Now its time for Norm Goldman. Bye.

The Norman Goldman Show : Where Justice is Served
 
This is a conflict we are already too involved in by allowing gun sales to the FSA and even talking about intervention. if there is intervention due to use of chemical weapons, it should be a coalition effort, a NATO involvement. It cannot be the US acting on its own or even possibly being perceived that way. We need to alter foreign policy to be at least slightly more isolationist. Not completely, but at least being only involved as much as other major countries.

We can't police the world after selling $66 billion in weaponry every year.

That was the complaint in Afghanistan that all these U.S. made weapons ended up in terrorist hands.
 
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