Page 10 of 14 FirstFirst ... 89101112 ... LastLast
Results 91 to 100 of 135

Thread: Obama Warns Syria on Chemical Weapons

  1. #91
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Georgia
    Last Seen
    08-09-13 @ 08:14 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    11,600

    Re: Obama Warns Syria on Chemical Weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    Rather than saying people don't care, we know Obama don't care, there is no oil in Syria. Obama did go into Libya only because of oil.
    The same oil companies are operating in Libya that were there before Khadafi was deposed.

  2. #92
    Sage
    Sherman123's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    Northeast US
    Last Seen
    11-23-17 @ 11:12 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    7,774

    Re: Obama Warns Syria on Chemical Weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    Iran is fixing to dump Syria because the writing is on the wall... Assad is on his way out.. and the issue has been largely a joint effort of Egypt, Turkey and Saudi Arabia. I am glad Obama didn't jump in... It has to be MORE important to the players than it is to the US.

    Meanwhile, the Secular Liberals in Libya beat out the Muslim Brotherhood in July elections.
    I'm not sure how you got to this conclusion. The Iranian government has been doing anything but reversing its support of Assad, and has in fact begun to send actual troops and advisers openly for the first time in an effort to beat back the rebels. I'd also seriously contest that the Gulf States or their Turkish interlocutors have done all that much (as yet) for the FSA, and that it centers around US unwillingness.

  3. #93
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Georgia
    Last Seen
    08-09-13 @ 08:14 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    11,600

    Re: Obama Warns Syria on Chemical Weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    I'm not sure how you got to this conclusion. The Iranian government has been doing anything but reversing its support of Assad, and has in fact begun to send actual troops and advisers openly for the first time in an effort to beat back the rebels. I'd also seriously contest that the Gulf States or their Turkish interlocutors have done all that much (as yet) for the FSA, and that it centers around US unwillingness.
    In the ME, the power brokers rarely talk.. but as of today Iran is looking for a way to disengage from Syria because Assad is a lost cause.

    In the past 3 weeks Adahminejah visited with King Abdullaah in Arabia and the Deputy Foreign Minister from Arabia is in Iran as we speak.

    Lots of phone calls and I have NO doubt they are talking with Obama.

  4. #94
    Professor
    Kane's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Last Seen
    09-09-13 @ 09:13 PM
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    1,661

    Re: Obama Warns Syria on Chemical Weapons

    I think I can explain Marine and Shermans confusion on the wars and major issues ...

    a few quotations -

    "The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media."
    --William Colby, former CIA Director, cited by Dave Mcgowan, Derailing Democracy

    "You could get a journalist cheaper than a good call girl, for a couple hundred dollars a month."
    --CIA operative, discussing the availability and prices of journalists willing to peddle CIA propaganda and cover stories. Katherine the Great, by Deborah Davis

    "There is quite an incredible spread of relationships. You don’t need to manipulate Time magazine, for example, because there are [Central Intelligence] Agency people at the management level."
    --William B. Bader, former CIA intelligence officer, briefing members of the Senate Intelligence Committee, The CIA and the Media, by Carl Bernstein

    "The Agency's relationship with [The New York] Times was by far its most valuable among newspapers, according to CIA officials. [It was] general Times policy ... to provide assistance to the CIA whenever possible."
    --The CIA and the Media, by Carl Bernstein

    "Senator William Proxmire has pegged the number of employees of the federal intelligence community at 148,000 ... though Proxmire's number is itself a conservative one. The "intelligence community" is officially defined as including only those organizations that are members of the U.S. Intelligence Board (USIB); a dozen other agencies, charged with both foreign and domestic intelligence chores, are not encompassed by the term.... The number of intelligence workers employed by the federal government is not 148,000, but some undetermined multiple of that number."
    --Jim Hougan, Spooks

    "For some time I have been disturbed by the way the CIA has been diverted from its original assignment. It has become an operational and at times a policy-making arm of the government.... I never had any thought that when I set up the CIA that it would be injected into peacetime cloak and dagger operations."
    --former President Harry Truman, 22 December 1963, one month to the day after the JFK assassination, op-ed section of the Washington Post, early edition
    __________________________________________________ _____
    "The press is the hired agent of a moneyed system, set up for no other reason than to tell us lies where their interests are concerned." — Henry Adams

  5. #95
    A Man Without A Country
    Mr. Invisible's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    New Jersey
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 05:26 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    4,961
    Blog Entries
    71

    Re: Obama Warns Syria on Chemical Weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    Rather than saying people don't care, we know Obama don't care, there is no oil in Syria. Obama did go into Libya only because of oil.

    Not only that, but it was also to set up a base of operations to counter China's growing influence in the African continent.
    "And in the end, we were all just humans, drunk on the idea that love, only love, could heal our brokenness."

  6. #96
    Sage
    Sherman123's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    Northeast US
    Last Seen
    11-23-17 @ 11:12 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    7,774

    Re: Obama Warns Syria on Chemical Weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    In the ME, the power brokers rarely talk.. but as of today Iran is looking for a way to disengage from Syria because Assad is a lost cause.

    In the past 3 weeks Adahminejah visited with King Abdullaah in Arabia and the Deputy Foreign Minister from Arabia is in Iran as we speak.

    Lots of phone calls and I have NO doubt they are talking with Obama.
    I'm familiar, but it would be wrong to say this was positive for Iran. In fact most analysis has been that this was utterly disastrous. First you had the embarrassment at the NAM meeting in Tehran where Mursi openly declared his support for the Syrian opposition and castigated Iran, all while Saudi and Qatari delegates watch with glee and proceeded to issue a joint statement. The Iranian diplomatic ventures have not been an attempt to engage Washington, they have been an attempt to try and show the West that Iran is not diplomatically isolated. The invitation to Ahmadinejad may be a final effort in the highly personal sphere of Saudi internal politics to convince them to withdraw their support for Assad and relent on their nuclear program---I highly doubt it. It is more likely an effort of public conciliation, before the deluge of the coming fall campaigns in Syria which will require more support from the Gulf states and hopefully the US. After the November elections in America, they will be looking aggressively to deliver some heavy blows. Bringing Iranian envoys to Riyadh now makes a bit of sense.

  7. #97
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Georgia
    Last Seen
    08-09-13 @ 08:14 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    11,600

    Re: Obama Warns Syria on Chemical Weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    I'm familiar, but it would be wrong to say this was positive for Iran. In fact most analysis has been that this was utterly disastrous. First you had the embarrassment at the NAM meeting in Tehran where Mursi openly declared his support for the Syrian opposition and castigated Iran, all while Saudi and Qatari delegates watch with glee and proceeded to issue a joint statement. The Iranian diplomatic ventures have not been an attempt to engage Washington, they have been an attempt to try and show the West that Iran is not diplomatically isolated.

    The invitation to Ahmadinejad may be a final effort in the highly personal sphere of Saudi internal politics to convince them to withdraw their support for Assad and relent on their nuclear program---I highly doubt it. It is more likely an effort of public conciliation, before the deluge of the coming fall campaigns in Syria which will require more support from the Gulf states and hopefully the US. After the November elections in America, they will be looking aggressively to deliver some heavy blows. Bringing Iranian envoys to Riyadh now makes a bit of sense.
    Saudi Arabia is not supporting Assad.. and the last thing the SAG wants is to build nuclear weapons.. They are basically being forced into that position by Iran.

    The GCC have been opposed to Hamas and Hezbollah for five years or so because they are obstacles to peace.

  8. #98
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Where I am now
    Last Seen
    09-11-17 @ 03:00 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    16,386

    Re: Obama Warns Syria on Chemical Weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    Obama said if Syria (Assad) uses chemical weapons he would pay the price. Is that OK with you if Obama then go in and takes out the Assad regime?
    No, it's not; unless unbiased, factual proof that chemical weapon attacks against civilians took place OR there is systematic genocide...not before.

    Otherwise, Syria's civil war is (theoretically) no one's business but Syria's.

    Just as the U.S. civil war was (theoretically) no one's business but America's.


    How many American troops and innocent foreign civilians have to die before neo-cons stop trying to rule the world?
    Last edited by DA60; 09-02-12 at 09:19 PM.

  9. #99
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Georgia
    Last Seen
    08-09-13 @ 08:14 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    11,600

    Re: Obama Warns Syria on Chemical Weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    No, it's not.

    Syria's civil war is no one's business but Syria's.

    Just as the U.S. civil war was no one's business but America's.
    I would say that Obama posture has empowered the GCC, Turkey and Egypt to take ownership of the problems with Syria and Iran.

  10. #100
    Haters gon' hate
    MarineTpartier's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Last Seen
    01-04-16 @ 04:58 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    5,586
    Blog Entries
    8

    Re: Obama Warns Syria on Chemical Weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by Kane View Post
    You could not be more wrong about the wars. Your friend Sherman is way off as well.
    Hey, solid point Kane. Great substance to your counterpoint.
    “Mr. Speaker, I once again find myself compelled to vote against the annual budget resolution for a very simple reason: it makes government bigger.” ― Ron Paul
    Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of Liberty. – Thomas Jefferson

Page 10 of 14 FirstFirst ... 89101112 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •