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Thread: Labor Department spent $500G in stimulus on green-job ad blitz on Olbermann, Maddow

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    Re: Your Tax $$ to 'Stimulate' MSNBC?

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    I believe he was saying that it is was a typical political attack piece leaving out context and background information to make the situation seem worse that it is.
    All the context and background in the world doesn't make a bunch of political ads a legitimate use of stimulus money. Why would anyone advocate larger stimulus and more stimulus knowing this is the kind of pointless **** it gets spent on?

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    Re: Your Tax $$ to 'Stimulate' MSNBC?

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    All the context and background in the world doesn't make a bunch of political ads a legitimate use of stimulus money. Why would anyone advocate larger stimulus and more stimulus knowing this is the kind of pointless **** it gets spent on?
    And you felt the same way when W. spent tax dollars to win support for the Iraq war?

    Just wondering...

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    Re: Your Tax $$ to 'Stimulate' MSNBC?

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    And you felt the same way when W. spent tax dollars to win support for the Iraq war?

    Just wondering...
    Absolutely.

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    Re: Your Tax $$ to 'Stimulate' MSNBC?

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    Labor Department spent $500G in stimulus on green-job ad blitz on Olbermann, Maddow

    The government already spends way too much of our tax payer's money on propaganda and advertising but this really smells of dirty “Chicago style” politics. Does anyone really think it was an accident that MSNBC was the beneficiary here?




    I have four friends who completed this “weatherization technician” training more than a year ago and not one of them has been able to find a job in this “growing” field. It was a waste of our tax dollars and a waste of my friends’ time.
    You can smell the "fair and balanced" stench from your computer screen. Fox even goes as far to say that running a single ad, twice a day, lol, is an "ad-blitz". This is ridiculous crap set up to enrage right wingers that don't care to actually check the facts.
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
    **Thirty Minutes Later**
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    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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    Re: Your Tax $$ to 'Stimulate' MSNBC?

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    You can smell the "fair and balanced" stench from your computer screen. Fox even goes as far to say that running a single ad, twice a day, lol, is an "ad-blitz". This is ridiculous crap set up to enrage right wingers that don't care to actually check the facts.
    There's nothing "factual" or "non-factual" about calling it an ad blitz. You might believe it is misleading language but it has nothing to do with "facts."

    What's factual is that "STIMULUS" money was spent on POLITICAL ADS. That FACT should enrage us all, not just right-wingers.

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    Re: Your Tax $$ to 'Stimulate' MSNBC?

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    There's nothing "factual" or "non-factual" about calling it an ad blitz. You might believe it is misleading language but it has nothing to do with "facts."

    What's factual is that "STIMULUS" money was spent on POLITICAL ADS. That FACT should enrage us all, not just right-wingers.
    These weren't political ads. They were awareness ads about a program. Don't preach to others about facts unless you get yours straight first, k?
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
    **Thirty Minutes Later**
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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    Re: Your Tax $$ to 'Stimulate' MSNBC?

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    These weren't political ads. They were awareness ads about a program. Don't preach to others about facts unless you get yours straight first, k?
    Why would viewers need to be aware of a White House-supported federal program? That counts as a political ad. And how is that a legit use of stimulus?

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    Re: Your Tax $$ to 'Stimulate' MSNBC?

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    These weren't political ads. They were awareness ads about a program. Don't preach to others about facts unless you get yours straight first, k?
    Then it shouldn't have gone to ONE media outlet. Bad enough using stimulus dollars to advertise a government program born of a partisan political move ("green" jobs), but then enrich the one news org that consistently backs the dems exclusively, that's particularly bad.

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    Re: Your Tax $$ to 'Stimulate' MSNBC?

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    Why would viewers need to be aware of a White House-supported federal program?
    Lets say it's a job training program, you think it would be a better idea for the government to just start it up and tell no body about it so that no body uses it, or do you think it would be better if they actually told people about it via advertisements and actually got some use out of it? Also the "white house supported" thing is a silly label your using. The stimulus was passed by congress also, and has nothing to do with whether the ad was political or not. Whether the president supported the stimulus or not, it doesn't change that the ad wasn't political.

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    That counts as a political ad. And how is that a legit use of stimulus?
    One of the most outlandish things I've heard from a conservative/libertarian since lunch-time. If the ad said "Thank Obama for this!" then you'd be absolutely right, but since the ad was simply "to sign up for this program or to get information please call... or go to this website" it is NOT a political ad, and only someone that is dishonest would call it such.
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
    **Thirty Minutes Later**
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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    Re: Your Tax $$ to 'Stimulate' MSNBC?

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Then it shouldn't have gone to ONE media outlet. Bad enough using stimulus dollars to advertise a government program born of a partisan political move ("green" jobs), but then enrich the one news org that consistently backs the dems exclusively, that's particularly bad.
    I agree, they should have spread it around, but if they were only going to spend that money, it is possible that this is where they were going to get the best bang for their buck. Along with that, these advertisements are nothing out of the norm, the government has to advertise for stuff like this all the time, and foxnews just happened to latch on to the 1 that they could twist in to a scandal.
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
    **Thirty Minutes Later**
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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