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    Re: Ship Commander Fired After Harassment Claims

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    *Navy Pride* Maggie shouts in disapproving tone. This is the kind of thing that happens when assholes are allowed to advance through the ranks to captain ships. Shame on you.

    It's hard to believe you think so little of your fellow males...that they are all a bunch of horny dogs.

    I agree maggie...especially an officer who is supposed to oversee ...but human nature dictates there will be lots of problems more so aboard ship than in the army...where you have more space..

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    Re: Ship Commander Fired After Harassment Claims

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    This is the kind of thing that happens when you allow women to serve aboard a Navy combatant.........The Navy should not be used for social experimentation.....It is there to fight our wars..........We have enough problems already without mixing the sexes......If they have to serve at sea then put them on all female ships.........
    Re: "It's the woman's fault." How about instead, sexual harassers can't serve aboard Navy ships. Why do you blame the victim instead of the perpetrator?
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    Re: Ship Commander Fired After Harassment Claims

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Anyone who has risen to his rank in the service absolutely knows this is intolerable on every level. It's one thing when it's equal v equal. Quite another when its the commander of the damn ship.

    Im not talking about him maggie...I agree with you on that....im speaking in general terms

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    Re: Ship Commander Fired After Harassment Claims

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Re: "It's the woman's fault." How about instead, sexual harassers can't serve aboard Navy ships. Why do you blame the victim instead of the perpetrator?
    You know zero about life aboard a Navy Combatant that spends up to 90 days at sea.............
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    Re: Ship Commander Fired After Harassment Claims

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfsgirl View Post
    How about males treating women with respect, and not sexually harassing them?
    I know it's hard to control yourselves, but I would assume that being a commander would require him being an adult.
    Its not always just the mans fault but if the women are not there then the problem is eliminated.
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    Re: Ship Commander Fired After Harassment Claims

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Hes a man isnt he ? Im not condoning or defending what he did...I am stating that I believe NP is right this time...you put young men and women in close proximity of each other 24/7 for long periods with no other outlet....its human nature....
    From the picture in the OP, this guy doesn't look all that young. And he's the ship's commander, not some random enlisted guy. I've never been in the Navy so I don't know how much hanky-panky goes on on the ships, but in any case there's a distinction between flirting (or even consensual sex) and unwanted advances. It seems like this guy was fired for sexual harassment.
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    Re: Ship Commander Fired After Harassment Claims

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You know zero about life aboard a Navy Combatant that spends up to 90 days at sea.............
    I've gone longer than 90 days without getting laid, and I've never in my life sexually harassed someone. If someone can't control themselves and obey the military's rules, then they shouldn't be in the military in the first place. By the way, the implication in your post is that this kind of behavior is NORMAL when you're out at sea...are you sure you aren't just projecting your own faults onto the rest of the navy?
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    Re: Ship Commander Fired After Harassment Claims

    Quote Originally Posted by Wicked Weasel View Post
    With the slop they serve aboard military ships, I can understand this.
    Have you ever even eaten aboard a Navy Combatant? I did, 6 of them.......The chow is not bad...........
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    Re: Ship Commander Fired After Harassment Claims

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Its not always just the mans fault but if the women are not there then the problem is eliminated.
    If the sexual harassers are not there, then the problem is eliminated too.
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    Re: Ship Commander Fired After Harassment Claims

    Just a poor weak man...

    for the junior ranks, 19 to 21 year olds perhaps you can hold your mouth just right to say what you think. But thinking in NP's day the lustful juices still flowed, just as same sex, sex.

    Howsomeever this is the COMMANDING Officer. Not some young guy with more spunk than think. The Commander gets to wear the CO hat because he is supposed to be a cool, rational, even keeled sort, not a hormone driven teenager. He commands a guided missile warship, not lube boss at Orgies R Us.

    I see this as yet another NP moment. Nothing like his claim of sexes can't work together in close quarters- that would be if his ship ran aground because the Bridge crew was having a pot stoked orgy, or if the messhall was used routinely for daisy chain sex marathons...

    No it was a failure in leadership, as THE Commander on a US warship- your subordinates are not your drinking buddies to play grab ass with. A few can't see past sex, it is their holy Grail. I see an Officer who exercised extremely poor judgement so that in combat and most importantly the hazy, combat ready, trigger ready alerts in highly volatile areas of operation... he MUST exercise cool, precise and rock steady command.

    Women didn't do this to him, he did it to himself.

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