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    Re: Ship Commander Fired After Harassment Claims

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    The world is here because of him. Watch your tone.
    I respect his service to the country, but what I said is true. The world is not going to go back in time.

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    Re: Ship Commander Fired After Harassment Claims

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I respect his service to the country, but what I said is true. The world is not going to go back in time.
    And what you've done with it is not entirely a positive. Respect people that have given more than you have.

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    Re: Ship Commander Fired After Harassment Claims

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    And what you've done with it is not entirely a positive. Respect people that have given more than you have.
    What I've done with what? I told you I respect his service, but that doesn't mean that I can't say what l think of his comments. That is another thing entirely, and that is what the forum is for. I'm sure he doesn't need you to protect him from me and my terrible comments. Besides, I didn't say anything more disrespectful than what he is showing to women service members by saying they don't belong.

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    Re: Ship Commander Fired After Harassment Claims

    Here some stats to chew on. . .

    Part of the problem for the increase, critics say, is the quality of today's recruit.

    The military is increasingly issuing something called "moral waivers," so they can enlist military personnel with felony convictions for crimes like rape and sexual assault.

    “We don’t enlist convicted rapists in the armed forces of the United States,” said Michael Dominguez, the principal under secretary of defense for personnel and readiness. “If there’s a consensus 'that kid needs a second chance, I think he’s got it in him to be a solider,’ then they’ll let him into the armed forces.”

    In fact, CBS News has learned that both the Army and Marine Corps did issue a number of "moral waivers" to enlistees with felony convictions for rape and sexual assault - something not acknowledged in a follow-up letter from Dominguez.

    But it's not just who enters the military, it's how sex offenders are ultimately punished by the Command.

    “We have documents showing that a private convicted of rape, who had a bad conduct discharge suspended so he could deploy to Iraq,” Couric told Dominguez. “How could the U.S. military allow a convicted criminal to go back into a situation where he could easily rape again?”

    CBS: Convicted rapists allowed to enlist in military | Video Cafe
    That's one of 200 I could find. . .

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    Re: Ship Commander Fired After Harassment Claims

    mac-
    I am a vet, have the scars to prove it. That doesn't mean folks can't tell me what they think. Supposedly the whole point of my blood loss is so folks CAN say what they think.

    Now seems to me NP's rather trollish stances invite at the very least a reminder that time marches ON and not BACK.

    Hell, because I use progressive as my lean I get smears from 'conservative' posters.

    If NP is half the old salt he claims to be he damn sure doesn't need you playing mommy.

    So using your ahhhh 'logic' can I tell him no amount of pouting is going to turn back time. That his stalking horse of young seamen being uncontrollable lust buckets doesn't give cover to a navy warship's commander having bad judgement. How about 'gay underway' is ok, he needs to make peace with his past?

    I'll match him scar for scar. He may have done more than some but he didn't do more than me. Best a vet should hope for is to not be called a baby killer and I doubt NP was anywhere near enough to the bad guys to kill anyone, much less babies.

    not knocking his service, just applying your 'logic'...

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    Re: Ship Commander Fired After Harassment Claims

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    What I've done with what? I told you I respect his service, but that doesn't mean that I can't say what l think of his comments. That is another thing entirely, and that is what the forum is for. I'm sure he doesn't need you to protect him from me and my terrible comments. Besides, I didn't say anything more disrespectful than what he is showing to women service members by saying they don't belong.
    keep thinking that.

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    Re: Ship Commander Fired After Harassment Claims

    I never meant to disrespect anyone. I was only trying to say that he is old-fashioned and needs to see that the world is changing.

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    Re: Ship Commander Fired After Harassment Claims

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    mac-
    I am a vet, have the scars to prove it. That doesn't mean folks can't tell me what they think. Supposedly the whole point of my blood loss is so folks CAN say what they think.
    In the right context, sure.

    Now seems to me NP's rather trollish stances invite at the very least a reminder that time marches ON and not BACK.
    having an opinion contrary to yours does not make them "trollish"

    Hell, because I use progressive as my lean I get smears from 'conservative' posters.

    If NP is half the old salt he claims to be he damn sure doesn't need you playing mommy.
    He doesn't for sure. That doesn't mean I can't give my own opinion.

    So using your ahhhh 'logic' can I tell him no amount of pouting is going to turn back time. That his stalking horse of young seamen being uncontrollable lust buckets doesn't give cover to a navy warship's commander having bad judgement. How about 'gay underway' is ok, he needs to make peace with his past?
    My "ahhh logic" is not much different that your "ahhh logic". needless to say, some comments are over the top.

    I'll match him scar for scar. He may have done more than some but he didn't do more than me. Best a vet should hope for is to not be called a baby killer and I doubt NP was anywhere near enough to the bad guys to kill anyone, much less babies.
    ahhh, I'm more vet then you....let me guess, Army?

    not knocking his service, just applying your 'logic'...
    lol, really?

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    Re: Ship Commander Fired After Harassment Claims

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I never meant to disrespect anyone. I was only trying to say that he is old-fashioned and needs to see that the world is changing.
    He very well may be. But you'd be better received by showing a little respect to those that served in a different world then you live in. Keeping in mind that the world you live in owes a debt to those that served before it existed.

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    Re: Ship Commander Fired After Harassment Claims

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    There were no women on my ship. I did get pulled out of a burning H-60, in Iraq, by a female though. I had passed out due to smoke inhalation. 5 years later, she Capped me.

    Thank you for your service as well, brother.
    Thirty five years and I still miss my shipmates and the Goat Locker......God Bless.
    "God Bless Our Troops in Harms Way."

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