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    Re: Ship Commander Fired After Harassment Claims

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    Served over 21 years and never saw that happen............Try again.....
    I wasn't referring to when you served, I was saying in general. Your comment didn't limit it to when you served. This is what you said:

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    Being a straight man I can tell you that straight men have no interest in sexually harrassing gay men.....My experience it is the other way around.
    Either you are blind to it or you live in a fictional idealistic world where straight men have no problem with gay people.

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    Re: Ship Commander Fired After Harassment Claims

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    I wasn't referring to when you served, I was saying in general. Your comment didn't limit it to when you served. This is what you said:



    Either you are blind to it or you live in a fictional idealistic world where straight men have no problem with gay people.
    The point I am trying to make and it seems to go voer your head that in 21 years I have never seen a straight man sexually harrass anyone Gay.....I have seen many gay men kicked out of the Navy for harrassing straight men though. You can believe what you like, I could give a **** less....
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    Re: Ship Commander Fired After Harassment Claims

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    This is the kind of thing that happens when you allow women to serve aboard a Navy combatant.........The Navy should not be used for social experimentation.....It is there to fight our wars..........We have enough problems already without mixing the sexes......If they have to serve at sea then put them on all female ships.........
    "We agree on most issues my friend but we part company on this one........This is a pattern demeaning women......"

    "...I worked for the U.S. government as a civilian for 25 years and I know what sexual harassment is and if you call a co worker Sweetie, especially if the woman is a feminist you can be charged.......I have seen guys charged for more less then that..."

    "It doesn't matter....Its not appropriate.....He demeaned her while she was trying to do her job......"

    "Its sexual harrassment plain and clear........You always try to change the subject..."

    "Talk about hypocrisy.........."


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    Re: Ship Commander Fired After Harassment Claims

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Served over 21 years and never saw that happen............Try again.....
    You're fooling yourself NP. I served 23 and have seen it quite a few times.

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    Re: Ship Commander Fired After Harassment Claims

    Quote Originally Posted by Utility Man View Post
    "We agree on most issues my friend but we part company on this one........This is a pattern demeaning women......"

    "...I worked for the U.S. government as a civilian for 25 years and I know what sexual harassment is and if you call a co worker Sweetie, especially if the woman is a feminist you can be charged.......I have seen guys charged for more less then that..."

    "It doesn't matter....Its not appropriate.....He demeaned her while she was trying to do her job......"

    "Its sexual harrassment plain and clear........You always try to change the subject..."

    "Talk about hypocrisy.........."

    Don't get me wrong my friend.........Sexual harrassment is wrong whether its done by a male or female and I don't condone it for one second...The point I am trying to make if you mix men and women at sea for a long period of time its going to happen...You can't stop it.....There are two ways to handle the problem.....Either remove all women from Navy Combatants or develop all women crews...You sure can't kick all the men off ships...........
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    Re: Ship Commander Fired After Harassment Claims

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    The point I am trying to make and it seems to go voer your head that in 21 years I have never seen a straight man sexually harrass anyone Gay.....I have seen many gay men kicked out of the Navy for harrassing straight men though. You can believe what you like, I could give a **** less....
    Well, you obviously have a different definition of what harassment is. That, or you are completely full of ****. I'm sorry, I don't buy it.

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    Re: Ship Commander Fired After Harassment Claims

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    You're fooling yourself NP. I served 23 and have seen it quite a few times.


    Have you ever considered we served in different eras (1956-1977)
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    Re: Ship Commander Fired After Harassment Claims

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    Well, you obviously have a different definition of what harassment is. That, or you are completely full of ****. I'm sorry, I don't buy it.
    I was a leading Chief Petty Officer on a AD when I retired...USS BRYCE CANYON (AD-36) WITH 30 men under me......I took many men to Captains Mast for violations to the UCMJ but none for sexual harrassment............Now I am done with you......Believe what you like.......
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    Re: Ship Commander Fired After Harassment Claims

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Don't get me wrong my friend.........Sexual harrassment is wrong whether its done by a male or female and I don't condone it for one second...The point I am trying to make if you mix men and women at sea for a long period of time its going to happen...You can't stop it.....There are two ways to handle the problem.....Either remove all women from Navy Combatants or develop all women crews...You sure can't kick all the men off ships...........
    I think the problem was handled just fine. They canned the predator. Good for them!!! And thank goodness MOST men are good guys and would never do such things.

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    Re: Ship Commander Fired After Harassment Claims

    The important take away is that women want to be sexually harassed. We shouldn't blame the guy who got fired for sexual harassment.
    What else should we expect of the guy with all those women around pressuring him to harass them?
    I may be wrong.

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