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    Re: Ship Commander Fired After Harassment Claims

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    "Close quarters" has nothing to do with it. One's sex drive can be controlled by mature adults.

    This crap happens in the military because the military has a shortage of mature adults (i. e. men). The military is full of losers/criminals with no education or life skills, since the only place that's willing to pay such losers a salary is the military, because in wars it's always too desperate for recruits.

    True, COs need to graduate w/a degree (from a military academy), but not surprisingly, the armed forces has a severe shortage of officers; most people w/sufficient noodle to do that would enter the civilian workforce. The US military therefore comprises mostly of enlisted men/women (mostly men) that are plucked off the streets.

    The evidence is all there: there are way too many stories about serial drug addicts, ex-felons, Neo-Nazis, drunks, etc. being accepted into the military. And whenever a woman finds herself among serial drug addicts, ex-felons, Neo-Nazis, drunks, etc., she'll be raped.

    And it's utterly silly to exect the government to enforce the zero-tolerance policy; the US government doesn't care how many rapes occur in the ranks; that policy is merely a PR stunt.

    It only cares about how its objective: subjugating enough people in foreign nations to make room for Exxon.
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    Re: Ship Commander Fired After Harassment Claims

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    This crap happens in the military because the military has a shortage of mature adults (i. e. men). The military is full of losers/criminals with no education or life skills, since the only place that's willing to pay such losers a salary is the military, because in wars it's always too desperate for recruits.
    You make these statements and it is obvious that you know NOTHING about recruiting standards. Google is our friend.

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    True, COs need to graduate w/a degree (i. e. from a military academy), but not surprisingly, the armed forces has a severe shortage of officers; most people w/sufficient noodle to do that would enter the civilian workforce.
    Not all officers are service academy grads. The subject of this thread was. However, you again demonstrate a lack of recruiting standards. Do you know how one gets into a service academy? The people at the recruiting offices are also our friend.

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    The US military therefore comprises mostly of enlisted men/women (mostly men) that are plucked off the streets, or COs that barely squeaked by.
    This was a common occurance in Europe in the past, but I have NEVER heard of that happening here. Maybe you could smarten me up about this.

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    The evidence is all there: there are way too many stories about serial drug addicts, ex-felons, Neo-Nazis, drunks, etc. being accepted into the military. And whenever a woman finds herself among serial drug addicts, ex-felons, Neo-Nazis, drunks, etc., she'll be raped.
    Operative word here is "stories". Maybe you could enlighten me with some of your FACTS.

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    And it's utterly silly to exect the government to enforce the zero-tolerance policy; the US government doesn't care how many rapes occur in the ranks. What incentive is there to care when it knows the people it recruits are too desperate to be picky?
    Apparently this is your opinion. I "exect" you will continue to state opinions ... hopefully you will not confuse those opinions with facts. Facts are our friend.

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    That policy is merely a PR stunt.
    <sigh> (actually I should have typed yawn) Another opinion.

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    It only cares about how its objective: subjugating enough people in foreign nations to make room for Exxon.
    I would have thought that you might have mentioned GM or Chysler instead of Exxon.

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    Re: Ship Commander Fired After Harassment Claims

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    no
    exercise self restraint and responsibility
    follow the rules
    and there should be little problem with men and women serving together
    Human nature and instinct follow their own rules sorry

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    Re: Ship Commander Fired After Harassment Claims

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    So now it's just "human nature" for men to harrass women? Wow, you're digging a hole for yourself there.

    Dont put words in my mouth..

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    Re: Ship Commander Fired After Harassment Claims

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Being a straight man I can tell you that straight men have no interest in sexually harrassing gay men.....My experience it is the other way around.
    So you think sexual harassment is limited to flirting or trying to provoke a sexual act? Do you not think teasing someone about their sexuality would also be considered sexual harassment?

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    Re: Ship Commander Fired After Harassment Claims

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Dont put words in my mouth..
    Your words suggested that men just can't control themselves.

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    Re: Ship Commander Fired After Harassment Claims

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Dont put words in my mouth..
    here are your own words:
    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Human nature and instinct follow their own rules sorry
    one can only conclude from your statements that you believe sexual harassment is natural and instinctive
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    Re: Ship Commander Fired After Harassment Claims

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Your words suggested that men just can't control themselves.

    That was not the intention...but human nature and instinct however similar are not the same

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    Re: Ship Commander Fired After Harassment Claims

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    here are your own words:

    one can only conclude from your statements that you believe sexual harassment is natural and instinctive
    Nope thats your interpretation of my words...human nature and instinct are the drivers of the sexual urge...just like im sure your one of those that believe kids will have sex no matter what you tell them thats why abstinence teachings are worthless right ?

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    Re: Ship Commander Fired After Harassment Claims

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Nope thats your interpretation of my words...human nature and instinct are the drivers of the sexual urge...just like im sure your one of those that believe kids will have sex no matter what you tell them thats why abstinence teachings are worthless right ?
    Then explain what you are saying, clearly. Are you saying that because the drivers of behavior are "human nature" and instinct (the same thing, but hey...) that abuse and harrassment is to be expected, should be ignored? Or something different? Please explain.

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