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    Paul Ryan won't explain 'forcible rape' language

    All romney and ryan do is run their mouths and refuse to explain anything they want to do....this has gone way beyond just ridiculous


    GOP vice presidential contender Paul Ryan declined to explain what is meant by "forcible rape" in abortion legislation he co-sponsored with embattled Rep. Todd Akin.Ryan, a Wisconsin congressman, and Akin are among the 227 co-sponsors of the "No Taxpayer Funding for Abortion Act," which would prohibit federal funding of abortions except in instances of "an act of forcible rape or, if a minor, an act of incest."


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    Re: Paul Ryan won't explain 'forcible rape' language

    So, no abortion if roofied, but yes abortion if beaten up? Yeah, that's a great distinction be worried about. The two are treated the same in terms of charging someone with rape, by the way.

    I get a strong sense that these guys fundamentally do not understand the subjects they are trying to legislate.
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    Re: Paul Ryan won't explain 'forcible rape' language

    Not all rape is “forcible rape”. If an eighteen year old knocks up his 15 year old girlfriend, it is rape but not “forcible rape”. I’m sure there are other examples but Ryan isn’t stupid enough to get caught up in this silly liberal fishing expedition when most Americans want to know what our government is going to do to turn the economy around and to reduce the debt.

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    Re: Paul Ryan won't explain 'forcible rape' language

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    Not all rape is “forcible rape”. If an eighteen year old knocks up his 15 year old girlfriend, it is rape but not “forcible rape”. I’m sure there are other examples but Ryan isn’t stupid enough to get caught up in this silly liberal fishing expedition when most Americans want to know what our government is going to do to turn the economy around and to reduce the debt.
    Exactly. Forcible rape is a legal term. Look it up.
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    Re: Paul Ryan won't explain 'forcible rape' language

    So if a woman is "forcibly raped," she can have an abortion because, after all, it would be barbaric to make her bear the rapist's child. But if she's drugged, or if she's molested as a child, then she has to bear the rapist's baby because, let's face it, the bitch was probably asking for it.

    Am I missing something here, or is that an accurate summary of the position of those who support this kind of language in a bill?
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    Re: Paul Ryan won't explain 'forcible rape' language

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    So if a woman is "forcibly raped," she can have an abortion because, after all, it would be barbaric to make her bear the rapist's child. But if she's drugged, or if she's molested as a child, then she has to bear the rapist's baby because, let's face it, the bitch was probably asking for it.

    Am I missing something here, or is that an accurate summary of the position of those who support this kind of language in a bill?
    Forcible Rape Law & Legal Definition

    Forcible rape is a rape where the anal or vaginal sexual intercourse is deemed to be without the lawful consent of the victim. In a forcible rape, the victim is prevented from resisting the sexual act because of the offender’s use of force or threats of physical violence, under circumstances where the victim reasonably believes that such resistance would not prevent the rape. [Edwards v. Butler, 882 F.2d 160, 163 (5th Cir. 1989)]. Attempts to commit rape are also included as forcible rape.
    Forcible rape is different from aggravated rape. The difference is based on the degree of force employed for the unlawful sexual act and the extent to which the victim resists.
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    Re: Paul Ryan won't explain 'forcible rape' language

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Exactly. Forcible rape is a legal term. Look it up.
    Um, yeah, I'm not sure why this needed an explanation.

    Being roofied is still forcible rape by federal definition.

    Nothing to see here, basically.
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    Re: Paul Ryan won't explain 'forcible rape' language

    Wasn't Ryan against all abortion except where the life of the mother was in danger?

    Did that position become untenable?

    If so wouldn't he make himself appear a little more reasonable to a number of Americans if he were to allow (in his world) some rape victims access to abortion?
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    Re: Paul Ryan won't explain 'forcible rape' language

    This just in:


    Rape is rape is rape is rape...

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    Re: Paul Ryan won't explain 'forcible rape' language

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Exactly. Forcible rape is a legal term. Look it up.
    Actually it is not. The term has absolutely no legal definition. That was one of the biggest issues with this legislation. It would have created a nightmare for every state as they tried to figure out what did and did not fall within that category. It is not defined anywhere.
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