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    Re: Paul Ryan won't explain 'forcible rape' language

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    I'm not talking about Romney specifically, I'm talking about the Republican Party in general. If Republicans view this as a "distraction" and want to run on economic issues in future elections, then all they have to do is stop proposing nasty legislation like this, stop making ignorant and misogynistic comments, and generally let it go. The fact that they DON'T do these things indicates that it's NOT merely a distraction, but rather an important belief to their party.

    As for Romney specifically, I don't think he believes this "forcible rape" crap, mainly because I don't think he believes anything at all. But he did tell Mike Huckabee last year that he would "absolutely" support a "Personhood Amendment" which would guarantee a right to life from the moment of conception (thereby outlawing all abortion, in vitro fertilization, and some popular forms of contraception). And so it's perfectly legitimate to call him out on that bull****. Again, if he only wanted to run on economic issues and didn't want to get called on this, he shouldn't have done it in the first place.
    this thread is about Romney's running mate, not the republican party in general.

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    Re: Paul Ryan won't explain 'forcible rape' language

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    the right don't put abortion in their platform as a distraction.
    Says you

    the left are pushing this dialogue about forcible rape to distract.
    Says you

    Ryan said rape is rape.
    Yet his support of other bills says otherwise on the matter

    honest people would now let this die a natural death, but not the actual hypocrites and dishonest amongst us. they will continue to hope this distraction takes away focus on things that matter. They will do everything in their power to aid in keeping this distraction in focus.
    and honest people would admit that both are using abortion as a distraction, however, we know that isn't the case with "some" people.

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    Re: Paul Ryan won't explain 'forcible rape' language

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    All romney and ryan do is run their mouths and refuse to explain anything they want to do....this has gone way beyond just ridiculous


    GOP vice presidential contender Paul Ryan declined to explain what is meant by "forcible rape" in abortion legislation he co-sponsored with embattled Rep. Todd Akin.Ryan, a Wisconsin congressman, and Akin are among the 227 co-sponsors of the "No Taxpayer Funding for Abortion Act," which would prohibit federal funding of abortions except in instances of "an act of forcible rape or, if a minor, an act of incest."


    Paul Ryan won't explain 'forcible rape' language
    Forcible rape, as opposed to statutory rape where there was no force.

    Those of us with a double-digit IQ don't need a some politician to tell us what "forcible rape" is, we can use a computer and look it up for ourselves.

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    Re: Paul Ryan won't explain 'forcible rape' language

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    this thread is about Romney's running mate, not the republican party in general.
    It would appear that you stopped reading my post after the first three sentences.
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    Re: Paul Ryan won't explain 'forcible rape' language

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    It would appear that you stopped reading my post after the first three sentences.
    Sure i did. It was also not relevant to the thread topic, so I chose to cut out the fat

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    Re: Paul Ryan won't explain 'forcible rape' language

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    the economy is in shambles, and liberals would prefer that the national dialogue be this?

    because this is what matters? or is it that their reelection hinges on us focusing on these tertiary items?

    I think the answer is pretty obvious. liberals have no shame. none.
    Since 2010, the repubs have spent a LOT of time and effort trying to overturn R v W.

    The Rep VP candidate deep up in that mix.

    So those of us who are leery of social conservatives and their agendas are eing justly critical of the guy who'll be a heartbeat away from the presidency. (And breaking "ties" as well).
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    Re: Paul Ryan won't explain 'forcible rape' language

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Well maybe the patient didn't WANT to report the act, or maybe there wasn't any evidence. Ever think of that?



    Of course you can. No one is on trial if a woman is just seeking an abortion (rather than testifying in court against a rapist), so there can absolutely be situations where no one is prosecuted but a rape still occurred.



    Or how about you just leave rape victims alone? What the hell is the point of this exercise anyway? To prove that the woman isn't a dirty slut who *gasp* chose to have sex?
    The point of this law is to not simply use tax money to fund abortion on demand. The law allows for abortion funding only in limitted situations, not simply whenever someone wants one. Get real!
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    Re: Paul Ryan won't explain 'forcible rape' language

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    Since 2010, the repubs have spent a LOT of time and effort trying to overturn R v W.

    The Rep VP candidate deep up in that mix.

    So those of us who are leery of social conservatives and their agendas are eing justly critical of the guy who'll be a heartbeat away from the presidency. (And breaking "ties" as well).
    you voting for the king, or the president?

    In primary elections, the right speaks about abortion all the time, and I do find it annoying, but I also know it is political pandering, and refuse to join in the fray.

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    Re: Paul Ryan won't explain 'forcible rape' language

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Those are not legal definitions for the US. AS an example, the FBI one is for data collection purposes.

    Laws regarding rape - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    I posted three or four legal definitions of forcible rape. I made no claim there was some kind of "national definition." I was responding to a poster who said there is no legal definition of forcible rape. He was obviously wrong. That each state may have its own definition is immaterial. I'm betting "forcible rape" is on the books of every state in the union. I just checked Illinois/Kentucky/California. They all have them. Here's California's:

    A. Forcible Rape
    The carnal knowledge of a person, forcibly and/or against the person’s will; or not forcibly or against
    the person’s will where the victim is incapable of giving consent because of his/her temporary or permanent
    mental or physical incapacity (or because of his/her youth)
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    Re: Paul Ryan won't explain 'forcible rape' language

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    All romney and ryan do is run their mouths and refuse to explain anything they want to do....this has gone way beyond just ridiculous


    GOP vice presidential contender Paul Ryan declined to explain what is meant by "forcible rape" in abortion legislation he co-sponsored with embattled Rep. Todd Akin.Ryan, a Wisconsin congressman, and Akin are among the 227 co-sponsors of the "No Taxpayer Funding for Abortion Act," which would prohibit federal funding of abortions except in instances of "an act of forcible rape or, if a minor, an act of incest."


    Paul Ryan won't explain 'forcible rape' language
    Even for the silly season, this is a bit much.

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