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    Re: Middle-class poorer, earned less in 2000s

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    Re: Middle-class poorer, earned less in 2000s

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    Re: Middle-class poorer, earned less in 2000s

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Why I have a hard time with these stats is because I'm not sure what's taken into account. For instance, since we've been experiencing heavy immigration, legal and illegal, through our southern border, there should be more people in the lower income ranges, I think. (I don't know this...it's my common sense talking...and could be wrong.) Also, people don't necessarily stay in a class. Lower income moves up to middle income moves up to higher income, ad infinitum. I would think.

    Also, I would point out that the top 10% of earners in this country pay 70% of the taxes. How much more do you want them to pay, by the way?

    Top 10 Percent of Earners Paid 71 Percent of Federal Income Taxes

    Edit: And the reason the middle class lost a median 28% of their net worth is, quite obviously, because of the housing crisis.
    19th century racists who blamed the Irish/Italians/Jews for the US' declined would be proud of America's modern right wing continuing the proud old tradition of blaming the immigrants. It is never failed laissez faire policies. Nope. It's always the fault of the new generation of immigrants.
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    Re: Middle-class poorer, earned less in 2000s

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    economic reality is stomping the living crap out of manufacturing unions Public sector unions should be banned. and we never should have protected private sector unions--if the workers could get enough to agree with them-then they could dictate terms-if not the employer could fire the unionistas. that is the way it should have been
    With the help of government.

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    Re: Middle-class poorer, earned less in 2000s

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    With the help of government.
    no government-the unions would have died a quick death

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    Re: Middle-class poorer, earned less in 2000s

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    19th century racists who blamed the Irish/Italians/Jews for the US' declined would be proud of America's modern right wing continuing the proud old tradition of blaming the immigrants. It is never failed laissez faire policies. Nope. It's always the fault of the new generation of immigrants.
    Mr. Hat, surely you didn't read my response as blaming immigrants -- for anything. It's those loppy-left glasses you're wearing. Straighten 'em out, please; or your brain'll freeze like that.
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    Re: Middle-class poorer, earned less in 2000s

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    no government-the unions would have died a quick death
    Hardly. But with them hurting as you suggest, where are all those jobs you say would come?

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Middle-class poorer, earned less in 2000s

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Hardly. But with them hurting as you suggest, where are all those jobs you say would come?
    I said jobs would come?

    you believe unions could have survived without all that New Deal help?

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    Re: Middle-class poorer, earned less in 2000s

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Mr. Hat, surely you didn't read my response as blaming immigrants -- for anything. It's those loppy-left glasses you're wearing. Straighten 'em out, please; or your brain'll freeze like that.
    Sure you didn't. You didn't even suggest it. Carry on bull****ting yourself.
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    Re: Middle-class poorer, earned less in 2000s

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Sure you didn't. You didn't even suggest it. Carry on bull****ting yourself.
    What?? You think immigrants come over the southern border and immediately join the middle class? Just how cranky are you today, Mr. Hat?
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