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    Re: California Farm Labor Shortage 'Worst It's Been, Ever'

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    Where? Where can I feed clothe and house my family for less 18k a year?
    Just taking a stab, here, but Somalia, maybe?
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    Re: California Farm Labor Shortage 'Worst It's Been, Ever'

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    We bring in the people first even though they have nowhere to live? Or do we convince businesses that it's a good idea to to invest in projects before the people get there?

    And how do we convince businesses that this is the best opportunity available to them? It's not enough to merely be viable, it has to compete with w/e else the business could be doing with their money instead.

    And what about the communities? It may not add to their tax base enough to make up for the increased strain on their infrastructures. And again, do we add the people first and let the infrastructure lag or do we try to convince voters to approve a tax to increase the infrastructure before the new residents are shipped in?

    I can't see as I would be willing to vote for my community participating in such a thing.
    You don't understand farm labor. You travel a circuit following the crops, you don't stay put, harvest one crop and then wait until next year to work again. The exception of course is if you get hired full time to do farm or ranch work which as a rule provides housing. If you excel you can get these jobs.

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    Re: California Farm Labor Shortage 'Worst It's Been, Ever'

    Quote Originally Posted by Camlon View Post
    Wouldn't this be a good job opportunity for young people?

    California youth unemployment is over 30%.
    Not really. If you want some kind of career, there's really nowhere to go. "Hey I've been promoted to Senior Lettuce Picker!"


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    Re: California Farm Labor Shortage 'Worst It's Been, Ever'

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    That's a bad yolk, RT....bad yolk.
    Maybe my message was a bit scrambled.

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    Re: California Farm Labor Shortage 'Worst It's Been, Ever'

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    You don't understand farm labor. You travel a circuit following the crops, you don't stay put, harvest one crop and then wait until next year to work again. The exception of course is if you get hired full time to do farm or ranch work which as a rule provides housing. If you excel you can get these jobs.
    I think I mentioned that earlier.

    What my post is responding to is the suggestion that we let the unemployed just be unemployed in a municipality in the agricultural distirct for 9 months of the year when they are not working the harvest.

    I live in Arkansas. We have all sorts of farming and migrant labor.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: California Farm Labor Shortage 'Worst It's Been, Ever'

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Not really. If you want some kind of career, there's really nowhere to go. "Hey I've been promoted to Senior Lettuce Picker!"
    Well, no, not as a career. But as a way to earn some money over the summer.
    The way the AK canneries do it, iirc, they cover your room and board while working you like a dog so you have nowhere and no time to spend your money. And when the season is over, you have a chunk of change to take back to the lower 48.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: California Farm Labor Shortage 'Worst It's Been, Ever'

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Not really. If you want some kind of career, there's really nowhere to go. "Hey I've been promoted to Senior Lettuce Picker!"
    Who would you rather higher, a young man who spent the summer picking lettuce, or the one who spent it without a job? Both are otherwise equally qualified.
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    Re: California Farm Labor Shortage 'Worst It's Been, Ever'

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    Maybe my message was a bit scrambled.
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    Re: California Farm Labor Shortage 'Worst It's Been, Ever'

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    Maybe my message was a bit scrambled.
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    Re: California Farm Labor Shortage 'Worst It's Been, Ever'

    In Carters recession I picked apples, planted trees, bucked hay and harvested Christmas trees. I found something to do and I did not go on welfare or food stamps. My opinion on this is based on experience.

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