What unrecoverable loss out of the job pool are you talking about?
I'd rather spend less money overall and have some amount of social safety net that benefits the lot of us.
You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo
Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
I would say that if they can't prove that they have a good reason for not taking the job, they should be cut off from welfare.
That will make the kids work.
Not all states have the death penalty and only 1, Texas, actually uses it on a regular basis. Our prisons are not punishment, their a trade school for criminals. Very few of them even make prisoners work at hard labor, if it weren't for them being locked in their cells, the would have better benefits, like gyms, cable tv, etc than hard working citizens do. For most of our prisoners, prison is 3 squares and cot, not punishment. And even where we do use capital punishment, it is done almost in secret and lethal injection really has no "fear factor" to it to deter crime.
Europe also does not have a welfare state as we know it. I don't know about all of Europe, but when I was in Germany, they had a workfare system, not welfare. Of course they also had a better education system and their people seemed a lot more disciplined than here. Unfortunately, the government runs too much there, too much like socialism.
While I don't think we should totally adopt the government he presents in the book, but I would take it anyday over some tard like Marx.
Since you seem of actually read the book, what freedoms are you talking about that were taken away? The right to vote without earning it? Hell we have that freedom now and look how fast we are failing and all the problems we have.
Last edited by DVSentinel; 08-22-12 at 03:37 PM.
I forget we're divided by a pond as I usually "get" your humour.
Anyhow - to re-explain my previous post, the first part of what I said meant that the best or better manual workers probably also have work on the side going on. A really good bricklayer for example might use company tools at weekends or after hours to do some extra private work (a "foreigner").
So my good friend Neil (for example) worked for a local roofing company but he was attracting a lot of requests for private work at weekends - when his company contracted he was one of the first to be laid off but as one of the better and more expensive employees he had enough work lined up to help him start his own roofing business. In the end, he finally got his private weekends back.
Deterrence is a farce. So your plan would just result in more cases being tried in the street. Represe ted by Smith and Wesson.
Yall just hate it when your capitalist utopia doesnt work out.
People dont want to be peasants.
We pay CEOs exhorbitant sums because we "need" them. So since we "need" farm workers farmers are going to pay what the market will bear.
Seasonal migratory back breaking minimum wage work will be resisted by anybody with sense. Sitting in a gas station all night pays about the same. **** picking cotton.
Anyone wondering what I'm talking about start here:
The Psychology of Persuasion