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Court: Texas can cut off Planned Parenthood funds[W:104, W:111]

Yet again you fail to answer a direct question. I'll try this again ... HAVE YOU EVER BEEN A VICTIM OF A VIOLENT CRIME?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

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Yes. What does that have to do with anything? Are you saying you have to be murdered before being able to have an opinion on murder?
 
Pro-choice is not a accurate description.It implies that you are for people being able to make all kinds of choices. But you people are only pro-choice when it comes to abortion.So pro-abortion is a accurate description since it describes those who are for abortion being legal.Since my side is called pro-life then I should call your side pro-death or pro-babykiller.

Not even close. Pro choice is a term endemic to the abortion issue and it is false to use the label pro abortion because you can be against abortion and pro choice at the same time.

If you disagree with the pro choice position you are anti choice. Period. You are only pro life if you are against all war and capital punishment along with abortion. Unfortunately, the anti choice crowd are usually the biggest cheerleaders of the other two.
 
The EP freed the slaves, PP is commiting soft genocide... (Abortions hit blacks at more than 3X the rate of whites and more than 2X the rate of any other race*, and this was a stated purpose of miss Sanger)

Maggie Sanger had a special place in her heart for the black community... it was the darkest most hate filled corner of it.

If the EP was about enslaving people again I would stand against it, and want it repealed, just as my family did when slavery was legal in the US.

*50 per 1000 for blacks, 14 per 1000 for whites, and 22 per 1000 for all other races.

The EP did not free the slaves in the North.
Sanger's racism, while grotesque, is not just cause to throw out PP and it isn't committing genocide. Goodness. Get a grip and drop the hyperbole.
 
So? Who is supposed to deal with own own actions - ourselves that's who. And just what services are those 65,000 women missing, be verbose. What is it they cannot get at any other free clinic?

Ah, so you have reading comprehensions problems. The article in the OP clearly states that: Planned Parenthood clinics that provide family planning and health services to poor women as part of the Texas Women's Health Program.

And my first question was: which clinics would those be? No where did I say that they couldn't get services from those clinics.

If you can't understand on first reading, I suggest you repeat the process until you do before making replies.

I know precisely why PP was formed and what their mission is. Eugenics, it was Sanger's crusade. And yes, I love how you argue against yourself, all Americans can lobby their government, and they have. Now because of that lobbying PP doesn't get public funding in Texas.

Did I say they shouldn't have lobbied for the funds to be pulled? Why do you insist on using fallacies and misinformation? If guilt by association is a valid arugement, according to your logic, most whites with slave-owing ancestor must support slavery? Here's Planned Parenthood actual mission statement: http://www.plannedparenthood.org/about-us/who-we-are/vision-4837.htm


Now that you've let us know the sky is falling, perhaps you can list those "essential services" provided exclusively by PP.

Again, the logical fallacies. Where did I say anything about "the sky is falling" or ""essential services" provided exclusively by PP". Do you not understand that argueing against arguements you make up yourself is useless and quite pitiful.
 
The EP did not free the slaves in the North.
Sanger's racism, while grotesque, is not just cause to throw out PP and it isn't committing genocide. Goodness. Get a grip and drop the hyperbole.

16,000,000 isnt genocide?

The black population in america is actually in decline with whites stabilizing and hispanics growing...

well except for the hispanic population growth this is exactly what Maggie "the racist" Sanger wanted.
 
Ah, so you have reading comprehensions problems. The article in the OP clearly states that: Planned Parenthood clinics that provide family planning and health services to poor women as part of the Texas Women's Health Program.

If you don't understand what "verbose" means, look it up, but while you are you might reconsider speaking about the reading comprehension of others when yours is so obviously wanting. You just regurgitated the PP line, be specific - what services are those poor women missing because PP won't get the public funding?

And my first question was: which clinics would those be? No where did I say that they couldn't get services from those clinics.

If you can't understand on first reading, I suggest you repeat the process until you do before making replies.

And again I ask you, is PP the only provider of these essential services (which you somehow cannot name for us) in Texas? And you should take you own advice.

Did I say they shouldn't have lobbied for the funds to be pulled? Why do you insist on using fallacies and misinformation? If guilt by association is a valid arugement, according to your logic, most whites with slave-owing ancestor must support slavery? Here's Planned Parenthood actual mission statement: http://www.plannedparenthood.org/about-us/who-we-are/vision-4837.htm

First, yes, you were busy talking about how idiotic (your word) it was to deny PP public funding because they supply some essential services (again, your words) that remain undefined. And guilt by association? Perhaps you better google that and go for understanding the phrase. Sanger started PP, and she started it to be an org that furthered the Eugenics movement. If you want to go to hyperbole and false equivilence, I can play along, but I'd rather not. You look foolish enough pulling the race card.

Again, the logical fallacies. Where did I say anything about "the sky is falling" or ""essential services" provided exclusively by PP". Do you not understand that argueing against arguements you make up yourself is useless and quite pitiful.

Try reading your own posts, or have someone read them to you. Maybe you'll catch a clue.
 
If you completely ignore the real-world implications of such funding, yeah, sure...:roll:

It's very easy to say "It's not in the Constitution!" and have that be the conversation ender. It's harder to consider the real-life impact of funding PP.

I already considered it and from I gather PP has millions of supporters(supposedly you are one) that can pick up the slack if funding is cut and if they don't for whatever reason which might lead to PP failing there is other places women can go to get the services provided.

The Constitution is the law of the land and it must be upheld at all costs so forgive me I've willing to give up women being allowed to continue to have vaginal sex with little care in the world.
 
I already considered it and from I gather PP has millions of supporters(supposedly you are one) that can pick up the slack if funding is cut and if they don't for whatever reason which might lead to PP failing there is other places women can go to get the services provided.

The Constitution is the law of the land and it must be upheld at all costs so forgive me I've willing to give up women being allowed to continue to have vaginal sex with little care in the world.

It is pretty clear your chief complaint is against women and not PP. Probably for lack of access to vaginal sex.
 
It is pretty clear your chief complaint is against women and not PP. Probably for lack of access to vaginal sex.

Is that the best you got?
 
I already considered it and from I gather PP has millions of supporters(supposedly you are one) that can pick up the slack if funding is cut and if they don't for whatever reason which might lead to PP failing there is other places women can go to get the services provided.

bingo. if PP is actually providing a need, they will survive just fine without leeching off of the taxpayers.
 
yes and what you were ignoring is that planned parenthood was one of her ideas regarding race.

I don't care about her racist agenda. Though there are people who are like her today, PP provides services that far outweigh her original agenda.
 
No. I save that for the vaginal sex I have access to.

You know this kind of insult only shows your own inexperience and lack of intelligence, right?
 
You know this kind of insult only shows your own inexperience and lack of intelligence, right?

Wow! You're insulted I'm not giving you my best? Sorry. The only time I lick my eyebrows is when I want to meet an attractive lady.
 
Wow! You're insulted I'm not giving you my best? Sorry. The only time I lick my eyebrows is when I want to meet an attractive lady.

How old are you?
 
If you don't understand what "verbose" means, look it up, but while you are you might reconsider speaking about the reading comprehension of others when yours is so obviously wanting. You just regurgitated the PP line, be specific - what services are those poor women missing because PP won't get the public funding?

Assume much? Who are you to tell me how to write my post? I don't give a damn if you want "verbose" or however the **** it is, it's there in the article, if you can't understand simple sentences, then writing more would just be a waste of time. If you need to have "family planning and health services" explained to you, there's this thing called google, learn how to you it.


And again I ask you, is PP the only provider of these essential services (which you somehow cannot name for us) in Texas? And you should take you own advice.

And again I tell you that the strawman is a waste of time and pitiful on your part. I never said that Planned Parenthood is "the only provider of these essential services". If you want to make that up, prove it yourself.


First, yes, you were busy talking about how idiotic (your word) it was to deny PP public funding because they supply some essential services (again, your words) that remain undefined.
Now you are just lying. Why don't you quote where I said: how idiotic (your word) it was to deny PP public funding because they supply some essential services (again, your words) that remain undefined.

Here's what I said:
So the Texan government left those 65 000 women to deal with the results of their actions on their own, which indicates that it's not about helping those women at all.




Giving people factually incorrect information is not "clue", since you seem to believe it yourself, it appears to be ignorance. Even without this law, Texas does not provide funding for abortion. There are more to contraceptive services than "condom provider", you ought to educate yourself on that. $35m of that money comes from the Federal Government which is everyone's dollar. All Americans can lobby their local government to fund the programme they support and the federal government to institute policies within the bound of the constitution, that is their democratic right. It is idiotic to argue that funding for programmes should only come from donation, if so many essential services would be cut, not the least of which is defense. I can and have donated to Planned Parenthood.

Now why don't you try to understand what that sentence means, read it a few times if you need to.


And guilt by association? Perhaps you better google that and go for understanding the phrase. Sanger started PP, and she started it to be an org that furthered the Eugenics movement. If you want to go to hyperbole and false equivilence, I can play along, but I'd rather not. You look foolish enough pulling the race card.

The race card was on the table the moment Eugenic was raised in this thread. It is guilt by association. Sanger is no longer alive, she no longer has anything to do with Planned Parenthood the same way your ancestor has nothing to do with you, but hey, you think that a dead person still determine the mission of an institution despite what they put out as their mission statement themselves, so according to your logic, if your ancestor owned slave, you must support slavery as well. I think it's foolish too, but that's the logic you present us with.


Try reading your own posts, or have someone read them to you. Maybe you'll catch a clue.

Every time you used the word "clue" so far, you have either been wrong or used misinformation, this time you're just plain lying. If I said anything about "the sky is falling" or ""essential services" provided exclusively by PP" then quote where those exact sentences appear in my post.
 
I don't care about her racist agenda.

You shouldn't care for her racist agenda. Ignoring Eugenicists does not them go away, and we should be especially circumspect when we allow them to influence policies involving life and death.
 
Wow! You're insulted I'm not giving you my best? Sorry. The only time I lick my eyebrows is when I want to meet an attractive lady.

wow. your behavior in this thread certainly goes a long way towards demonstrating to the rest of us the peace and gracefullness of the Christ you claim in your signature.
 
wow. your behavior in this thread certainly goes a long way towards demonstrating to the rest of us the peace and gracefullness of the Christ you claim in your signature.

Glad you noticed.
 
You shouldn't care for her racist agenda. Ignoring Eugenicists does not them go away, and we should be especially circumspect when we allow them to influence policies involving life and death.

Is she running PP from her coffin? Is PP engaged in eugenics right now? If so, show the proof.
 
Is she running PP from her coffin?

No. Neither are the founders of the KKK currently running their organization.

Is PP engaged in eugenics right now?

yup. take a look at the abortion rates for kids with down syndrome, or even black children v white children.
 
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