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    Same-sex couple in Henderson upset with hospital's treatment

    A story for those who think "domestic partnerships" are just as good as marriage for same sex couples

    Same-sex couple in Henderson upset with hospital's treatment

    CARSON CITY -- On the wall of their Henderson home, Brittney Leon and Terri-Ann Simonelli proudly display their certificate of domestic partnership.

    Under a 2009 state law, the document gives them all the rights of married couples.

    Or so they thought.
    click thru and read the article for more info but there are two points I want to be sure people see
    A woman who identified herself as public relations representative at Spring Valley Hospital told a Review-Journal reporter in a phone interview that the hospital policy requires gay couples have power of attorney in order to make medical decisions for each other .

    When asked if she was aware of Nevada's domestic partnership law, she accused the reporter of bias and hung up the telephone.
    Then there is the last little bit of total hypocrisy by the hospital
    Looking back, Leon is amused by one requirement imposed by the hospital.

    When she checked in, she said, the administration officer asked for her insurance. She is insured through Simonelli's policy from her job at a Strip hotel. Leon said the hospital readily accepted the insurance, and the officer even asked for Simonelli's Social Security number.

    "They wanted to be sure they would get paid," she said.
    They were happy to take the insurance payment which was due to a corporation accepting domestic partnerships but they wouldn't allow the domestic partner to make the same medical decisions they would give to a married couple - hypocrisy much?
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    Re: Same-sex couple in Henderson upset with hospital's treatment

    All the more proof why a 'domestic-partnership' is not the same as a marriage, and why SSM should be a nationwide freedom protected by the constitution.

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    Re: Same-sex couple in Henderson upset with hospital's treatment

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaIncognito View Post
    All the more proof why a 'domestic-partnership' is not the same as a marriage, and why SSM should be a nationwide freedom protected by the constitution.
    There's no evidence to suggest that this hospital would have honored a marriage certificate, either.

    The hospital could have just as easily demanded to see their marriage certificate, before allowing the partner make medical decisions. Who the hell carries that around with them??

    I think that if this hospital did anything illegal, it should be made an example as a message to any other medical facility that might do the same thing.

    In all fairness, though, you can't blame the hospital management for trying to avoid a lawsuit. On the other hand, if two people came in and lied about their marital/domestic partnership status would the hospital still be liable?
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    Re: Same-sex couple in Henderson upset with hospital's treatment

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    There's no evidence to suggest that this hospital would have honored a marriage certificate, either.

    The hospital could have just as easily demanded to see their marriage certificate, before allowing the partner make medical decisions. Who the hell carries that around with them??

    I think that if this hospital did anything illegal, it should be made an example as a message to any other medical facility that might do the same thing.

    In all fairness, though, you can't blame the hospital management for trying to avoid a lawsuit. On the other hand, if two people came in and lied about their marital/domestic partnership status would the hospital still be liable?
    But they were happy to acknowledge the insurance policy which paid their bill.

    You're probably right about the hospital refusing to work with the couple even if they had been married - as shown by the reaction of the PR person when questioned by the reporter.

    Read the article and you will see the couple does not plan to take any legal action against the hospital. It is doubtful the state AG will do anything based simply on a newspaper article.
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    Re: Same-sex couple in Henderson upset with hospital's treatment

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    There's no evidence to suggest that this hospital would have honored a marriage certificate, either.

    The hospital could have just as easily demanded to see their marriage certificate, before allowing the partner make medical decisions. Who the hell carries that around with them??

    I think that if this hospital did anything illegal, it should be made an example as a message to any other medical facility that might do the same thing.

    In all fairness, though, you can't blame the hospital management for trying to avoid a lawsuit. On the other hand, if two people came in and lied about their marital/domestic partnership status would the hospital still be liable?
    You raise a fair point. Perhaps then it's hospital policies that need to be changed and fixed upon.

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    Re: Same-sex couple in Henderson upset with hospital's treatment

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    A story for those who think "domestic partnerships" are just as good as marriage for same sex couples

    click thru and read the article for more info but there are two points I want to be sure people see


    Then there is the last little bit of total hypocrisy by the hospital

    They were happy to take the insurance payment which was due to a corporation accepting domestic partnerships but they wouldn't allow the domestic partner to make the same medical decisions they would give to a married couple - hypocrisy much?
    A husband is not allowed to make medical decisions for his wife unless there is a healthcare power of attorney. There's no double standard here.
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    Re: Same-sex couple in Henderson upset with hospital's treatment

    Well anybody that thinks any current civil unions or domestic partnerships are as concreat and binding and leagally equal to marriages simply is not educated on the matter.

    There are many cases like this where civil unions and domestic partnerships have been defeated by other family members or policies that call out "marriage" etc.

    this among many other reasons is why the civil unions / domestic partnership argument holds no water and is complete hogwash.

    I think last time I check there are like 1800 rights a marriage grants you
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    Re: Same-sex couple in Henderson upset with hospital's treatment

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    A husband is not allowed to make medical decisions for his wife unless there is a healthcare power of attorney. There's no double standard here.
    While im not disagreeing about the OP your statement is not true. The double standard part maybe be true but My uncle was granted medical decisions when my aunt was in a coma because marriage makes them one person.

    now there may be cases where the family fights it or something like that or other special circumstances but a husband does in fact have that power in situations too.

    AGain Im just talking in general and not referencing the OPs article.

    and also on a side note civil unions and domestic partnerships are crap legally compared to marriage no matter the OP.

    Just my two cents
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    Re: Same-sex couple in Henderson upset with hospital's treatment

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    A husband is not allowed to make medical decisions for his wife unless there is a healthcare power of attorney. There's no double standard here.
    I think you are mistaken.
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    Re: Same-sex couple in Henderson upset with hospital's treatment

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    A husband is not allowed to make medical decisions for his wife unless there is a healthcare power of attorney. There's no double standard here.
    Sorry Maggie but you're wrong...

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