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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

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    In her graduating speech which was inspired by the film Eclipse: The Twilight Saga
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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

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    and I see it thusly, the girl, her parents and most the free world sees the withholding of her diploma as asinine, Gubmint overreach, a petty tyrant who needs a reality check. The MERIT graduate did not say hell in anger, or to attack the powers who be. Betcha a shiny nickle she is 18 and an adult.

    The idea that she must kneel and kiss the Imperial ring is repugnant to most. You see it as a petulant child, most of us see a over the top administration with holding what they have no right to do.

    If she mooned the audience I might go along with making her wait to get her degree, but she said hell in a very off the cuff way...

    petulant to you is standing up to over reaching authority to most of us...

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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Seems to me this is like hanging someone for jaywalking.
    But ... but ... but ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Rules are rules. I can't believe the petulant attitude I am seeing here, it is shocking that any mature adult would defend the behavior of this disobedient child.
    This yet another example of PC run amok. Lord have mercy.

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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    If you worked all week and said the word hell, could your boss withhold your check?
    That is not a close analogy.

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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
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    and I see it thusly, the girl, her parents and most the free world sees the withholding of her diploma as asinine, Gubmint overreach, a petty tyrant who needs a reality check. The MERIT graduate did not say hell in anger, or to attack the powers who be. Betcha a shiny nickle she is 18 and an adult.

    The idea that she must kneel and kiss the Imperial ring is repugnant to most. You see it as a petulant child, most of us see a over the top administration with holding what they have no right to do.

    If she mooned the audience I might go along with making her wait to get her degree, but she said hell in a very off the cuff way...

    petulant to you is standing up to over reaching authority to most of us...
    There is no over reaching going on here whatsoever, and there can be no doubt that this is a petulant child. But it's the petulant adults defending the petulant that really surprise.

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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    That is not a close analogy.
    Yes it is. She worked 13 years for a Diploma, said a 'swear word', and had her diploma taken away.

    What if you said a 'swear word' at work and your boss said, "You're not getting your check, even though you worked all week for it."

    Would that be a problem, in your opinion?

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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    If you don't apologize you don't get your diploma! HOW CAN YOU GET YOUR DIPLOMA IF YOU DON'T APOLOGIZE?
    She's going to get her diploma. They will eventually relent and give it to her.
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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

    Lines from books commonly assigned for in-school reading:

    “Pass the damn ham, please.”
    ― Harper Lee, To Kill a Mockingbird
    Book also includes the descriptor "whore lady"

    From Grapes of Wrath
    "Sure - I seen it. But sometimes a guy'll be a good guy even if some rich bastard makes him carry a sticker." Chapter 2, pg. 9
    "This here is my country. I b'long here. An' I don't give a goddamn if they's oranges an' grapes crowdin' a fella outa bed even. I ain't a-goin." Chapter 10, pg. 142
    "So you're lookin' for work. What ya think ever'body else is lookin' for? Di'monds? What you think I wore my ass down to a nub lookin' for? Chapter 20, pg. 312
    A description of swearing in The Great Gatsby:
    At least three "damns", and one "bitch". Also, some young boys write the word "****" in charcoal on a stone bench.
    Huckleberry Finn has repeated use of the word "nigger".

    Of Mice and Men has sexual objectification and sporadic profanity.

    ...So given that information, given that this girl was likely exposed to quite a bit of profanity as part of her coursework (as were her peers), regardless of any rules regarding profanity...the reaction of the principal is extreme and unwarranted....and massively hypocritical.
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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

    No wonder Oklahomo gets a lot of tornados with people spouting lewd words like hell. It was caused by SATAN

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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Das Sozialist View Post
    Yes it is. She worked 13 years for a Diploma, said a 'swear word', and had her diploma taken away.

    What if you said a 'swear word' at work and your boss said, "You're not getting your check, even though you worked all week for it."

    Would that be a problem, in your opinion?
    It is not an apt analogy. You cant deny someone a paycheck for time they have already worked. A better analogy is a contract to build something payable on completion, then terminating prior to completion.

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