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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Two things:

    Saying HELL is a profanity?

    HOW was the student to know that HELL was considered a profanity by the principle, not the audience they laughed, when there was no school rule against saying the word.


    Way back in this thread, I posted a link to the student handbook for Prague High School - why don't you find it before you post more nonsense.

    1. "Hell" is a profanity and has been since time immemorial. It is a profane word.

    2. It is clear that the handbook is not an exhaustive list of all rules. Profanity is against the rules in every school.

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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    1. "Hell" is a profanity and has been since time immemorial. It is a profane word.

    2. It is clear that the handbook is not an exhaustive list of all rules. Profanity is against the rules in every school.
    Profanity: - Abusive, vulgar, or irreverent language.


    So you are saying that every preacher who uses the word "hell" is speaking in a profane manner?

    The student handbook is quite exhaustive, yet for some reason you have fixated on this notion that a single word uttered during a high school graduation speech, a word which caused no uproar at the time of speech, is somehow a violation of some unwritten rule, a rule of which you have zero personal knowledge. Yet, you have determined Ms Nootbaar broke a rule, a rule that was never promulgated before she spoke - all of this based on nothing more than your personal opinion.


    You do know that the young lady has already started her college studies - don't you? The failure to present to her the graduation diploma, has evidently caused her no academic problems.



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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Profanity: - Abusive, vulgar, or irreverent language. So you are saying that every preacher who uses the word "hell" is speaking in a profane manner?
    That would depend upon how it is used.


    The student handbook is quite exhaustive, yet for some reason you have fixated on this notion that a single word uttered during a high school graduation speech, a word which caused no uproar at the time of speech, is somehow a violation of some unwritten rule, a rule of which you have zero personal knowledge. Yet, you have determined Ms Nootbaar broke a rule, a rule that was never promulgated before she spoke - all of this based on nothing more than your personal opinion.
    The school apparently decided she broke a rule.

    You do know that the young lady has already started her college studies - don't you? The failure to present to her the graduation diploma, has evidently caused her no academic problems.
    Wonderful. I don't recall anyone saying that she should not receive her diploma or that she should not go to college. Only that she could have avoided this situation by apologizing, which is not even a punishment.


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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

    [QUOTE=Somerville;1060854278]Two things:

    Saying HELL is a profanity? HOW was the student to know that HELL was considered a profanity by the principle, not the audience they laughed, when there was no school rule against saying the word.
    I'm sure to some people, when used in a certain way, could construe it as swearing.

    Way back in this thread, I posted a link to the student handbook for Prague High School - why don't you find it before you post more nonsense.
    Does it really matter? I just think she should have apologized.

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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    HOW was the student to know that HELL was considered a profanity by the principle, not the audience they laughed, when there was no school rule against saying the word.
    Because people are supposed to read minds and just know without being told what particular people consider profanity, even though there is no defined rule in this regard.

    Way back in this thread, I posted a link to the student handbook for Prague High School - why don't you find it before you post more nonsense.
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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Because people are supposed to read minds and just know without being told what particular people consider profanity, even though there is no defined rule in this regard. They're not interested in reality, they're too busy spouting their own absurd nonsense.
    Oh stop complaining already. What's done is done. There's no need to be bitter.

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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Not noises. Words, and words that might be offensive to some people. The girl needs to grow up and learn how to conduct herself in public.
    Sheesh. If she dropped the N-bomb, used a racial slur or was cussing someone out I can understand the school getting upset. But she used a word that is highly used in casual speaking in a way that doesn't offend normal people.
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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    Sheesh. If she dropped the N-bomb, used a racial slur or was cussing someone out I can understand the school getting upset. But she used a word that is highly used in casual speaking in a way that doesn't offend normal people.
    Consider the fact that the schools team name is "The Fighting Devils"

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