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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Do you mean the parent/student handbook? I'm sure it is. If you have no link to prove it, you're claim is baseless.
    Somerville put it in the thread earlier. I'll dredge it up if you want.
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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    The benefit of the doubt for what? She cursed on stage in front of everyone.
    It was a small meaningless mistake. The school got their panties in a wad over nothing.
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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    The rules contained in the manual are never said to be exhaustive. The fax is that every school in the country disallows their students from using profanity. It is absurd and ignorant to suggest that a school does not have such a rule just because it is not listed in a booklet that was never intended as an exhaustive list of rules.

    I am extremely dismayed that anybody would make such a stupid argument as this.
    Oh, really? It is a stupid argument to say that a rule that doesn't exist in a book full of applicable rules doesn't apply?
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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
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    Does the article happen to have a link to any written rule that the school had?
    Do you have any children in school? Every school has these rules. Students cannot use profanity in school. You don't need to look in a rule book to know this. In the article I posted, it states that the school has a "strict zero tolerance policy." Do you think they are lying? LOL! Google "valedictorian denied high school diploma" and you will see that MULTIPLE articles state this zero tolerance policy.

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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    It wasn't in the rulebook.

    Therefore it did not break a rule
    That's the point that I was making and the question I was asking. Is it an on-paper, official rule or is it something that everyone just assumes is true, even though it's never stated. At the beginning of every school year, my kids get a copy of the rules of conduct that they are expected to follow and are required to return a signed copy to the school signifying they understand and agree with the rules.

    If the rule isn't there, it's not a rule.
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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

    I was just going to post again but then I figured it's really not worth it.

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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I was just going to post again but then I figured it's really not worth it.
    You can post it all you want, it only matters what you can prove and apparently, you can't prove it was a rule. Anyone can claim a zero tolerance policy after the fact. Let's see someone back it up.
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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Do you have any children in school? Every school has these rules. Students cannot use profanity in school. You don't need to look in a rule book to know this. In the article I posted, it states that the school has a "strict zero tolerance policy." Do you think they are lying? LOL! Google "valedictorian denied high school diploma" and you will see that MULTIPLE articles state this zero tolerance policy.
    It seems like it would be one of those informal rules, which are bull****.

    And let's say for argument's sake that there was a rule against "hell".

    A. I'd say that's the most ridiculous rule I've ever heard, but it isn't, since in one state it is illegal to fish off of the back of a camel.

    B. It was a graduation ceremony, which is not part of school so wouldn't have those rules.
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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    It seems like it would be one of those informal rules, which are bull****.

    And let's say for argument's sake that there was a rule against "hell".

    A. I'd say that's the most ridiculous rule I've ever heard, but it isn't, since in one state it is illegal to fish off of the back of a camel.

    B. It was a graduation ceremony, which is not part of school so wouldn't have those rules.
    Look, we've already been through all of this. I'm not doing it again with you. I don't really care about it anymore to tell you the truth.

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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

    Quote Originally Posted by cmakaioz View Post
    Guy is just @#$@$ing with folks.
    Guy liked this post.

    Guy, are you being serious or are you just POEing? Is this part of your hatred of public schools, or are you just a poe in general?
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