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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I posted a link earlier in the thread that the school has a zero tolerance policy for any kind of profanity. Whether or not you consider the word "hell" to be profane is entirely subjective. I don't know how many more times I have to explain this. It doesn't matter what YOU think about people and their beliefs. Some people may have been offended (such as grandparents, etc.), and how YOU personally feel about that or them does not matter. Zero tolerance. You all know what that means, right?
    I'm a little far behind in the thread, sorry.
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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    I'm a little far behind in the thread, sorry.
    The only link I could find, having to go through about 25 pages of thread, was this:

    HS valedictorian denied diploma after saying word

    It doesn't say whether or not the ruling is on-paper or just "understood".
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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    The only link I could find, having to go through about 25 pages of thread, was this:

    HS valedictorian denied diploma after saying word

    It doesn't say whether or not the ruling is on-paper or just "understood".
    It says they have a "strict zero tolerance policy." That would mean that they have a strict zero tolerance policy. Did you expect them to print a copy of it too?

    From the link:

    "A high school in Oklahoma with a strict zero tolerance policy against profanity may have overreacted a tad in refusing to grant a diploma to a graduating senior (and not just any graduating senior but the class valedictorian) because she said H-E-double hockey sticks in her graduation speech."

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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    It says they have a "strict zero tolerance policy." That would mean that they have a strict zero tolerance policy. Did you expect them to print a copy of it too?

    From the link:

    "A high school in Oklahoma with a strict zero tolerance policy against profanity may have overreacted a tad in refusing to grant a diploma to a graduating senior (and not just any graduating senior but the class valedictorian) because she said H-E-double hockey sticks in her graduation speech."
    As I said before, I remember Guy saying something about the policy being "understood" or something to that effect. That's why I asked in the first place.
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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    As I said before, I remember Guy saying something about the policy being "understood" or something to that effect. That's why I asked in the first place.
    Now do you believe that the school had a zero tolerance policy against profanity, therefore this girl broke the rule? Really, what you or I think about it is inconsequential. The school administrators have every right to enforce the rules as they see fit even if people think they overreacted. I'm sure there was a meeting held about this, and this was not some snap decision by the principal. I'll bet they had some complaints from some people, so they took actions that they thought were appropriate, a letter of apology, which is not a severe punishment in any way. I don't understand all the outrage over a child breaking the rules at school in the type of setting in which she did, and having to write an apology letter. An intelligent girl like her should be able to write out an apology letter in 20 minutes. It's not so bad IMO.

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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Now do you believe that the school had a zero tolerance policy against profanity, therefore this girl broke the rule? Really, what you or I think about it is inconsequential. The school administrators have every right to enforce the rules as they see fit even if people think they overreacted. I'm sure there was a meeting held about this, and this was not some snap decision by the principal. I'll bet they had some complaints from some people, so they took actions that they thought were appropriate, a letter of apology, which is not a severe punishment in any way. I don't understand all the outrage over a child breaking the rules at school in the type of setting in which she did, and having to write an apology letter. An intelligent girl like her should be able to write out an apology letter in 20 minutes. It's not so bad IMO.
    It wasn't in the rulebook.

    Therefore it did not break a rule
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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Why would you not give the school administrators the benefit of the doubt and assume that, just like every other school in America, the use of profanity by students is not allowed.
    Why didn't the school administrators give the student the benefit of the doubt?
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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    It wasn't in the rulebook.

    Therefore it did not break a rule
    Do you mean the parent/student handbook? I'm sure it is. If you have no link to prove it, you're claim is baseless.

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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    Why didn't the school administrators give the student the benefit of the doubt?
    The benefit of the doubt for what? She cursed on stage in front of everyone.

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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    It wasn't in the rulebook.

    Therefore it did not break a rule
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    Does the article happen to have a link to any written rule that the school had?
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