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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    I do believe this. It can be a bit slow responding, but it is how the system works.
    No the system only works like that in theory, not in practice.

    In practice, what you have are lame school board members who think they are trusting the professionals. The professionals are a bunch of gutless PC libs who can only stand up against someone or group that has real values. Example, here in DE ... ONE muzzie got his shorts tied in knots because sugar cane candy COULD be interpreted as a Christian symbol. Guess who won that one?

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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Another Lurker View Post
    No the system only works like that in theory, not in practice.

    In practice, what you have are lame school board members who think they are trusting the professionals. The professionals are a bunch of gutless PC libs who can only stand up against someone or group that has real values. Example, here in DE ... ONE muzzie got his shorts tied in knots because sugar cane candy COULD be interpreted as a Christian symbol. Guess who won that one?

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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    holy hell, nobody is this dense.

    the community votes for the board. If members of the board do not represent the will of the people, they are replaced.
    The school board is elected by the people. They are the ones with the authority to make rules. The principal and his or her staff only enforce rules. Members of the board are NOT replaced if they don't represent the will of the people. They are only replaced during an election cycle. Therefore, the principal was only enforcing rules that were actually made by the community by proxy of elected representatives to their local school board.

    Now what?

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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    holy hell, nobody is this dense.

    the community votes for the board. If members of the board do not represent the will of the people, they are replaced.
    LOL! The school board are representatives of and actual members of the community. BTW, this really is a side issue.

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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Um, saying hell isn't the problem here. The problem is that her speech was inspired by Twilight. For that she should be made to remediate her entire high school career.
    LOL

    It took me a little while to figure out this was sarcasm
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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    What kind of lesson is that? What kind of example is that setting for children? You can misbehave and refuse to apologize, but as long as you complain it will all work out in the end.
    I'm not judging it, I'm just saying.
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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    If I understand this correctly, a student gave a speech using language in violation of school policy and refused to apologize when asked. How could anyone support that?
    Perhaps its the policy that's the problem. It is the conservative/libertarian aspect of "Those doggone children!"

    Stupid whining about children is a bipartisan thing, but each side handles it differently.

    Liberals bitch that the media is "too violent", and that it needs to be toned down for our precious li'l youngsters

    Conservatives and libertarians bitch that that children aren't moral enough, because of the evil liberal media, and that they need to wear sexless clothes, never discover what sex is and most importantly NEVER swear ever ever ever ever ever ever ever.

    When children suffer for the latter, well, at least they're going to Heaven!

    EDIT on further reading this may not even be a policy. Guy, you're a smart dude, so if your statement on the rules is false you knew it when you said it (unless the article had vague language which is hard to understand, happens to me)
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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Rules are rules. I can't believe the petulant attitude I am seeing here, it is shocking that any mature adult would defend the behavior of this disobedient child.
    Nobody's defending the child.

    The reaction of the school was overblown. They made mountains out of molehills.

    This is the equivalent of using C-4 to eliminate an ant infestation.
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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    A small point but it's the whole crux of the issue for me. Sure the punishment is extreme. But all she had to do to avoid it was to apologize for the thing she did wrong. The foul language isn't the problem, it is her obstinacy in refusing to apologize.
    Why should she apologize? She'd be rewarding the school's Bible thumping moronic overblown reaction by pretending that her behavior is the problem, not the school's.
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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    Why should she apologize? She'd be rewarding the school's Bible thumping moronic overblown reaction by pretending that her behavior is the problem, not the school's.
    Especially since there is no published or established rule that she broke, plus the fact that she's already earned the diploma, the graduation was just a ceremony, it has no bearing whatsoever on whether or not she's graduated from high school.

    The school is being stupid.
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