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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    If I understand this correctly, a student gave a speech using language in violation of school policy and refused to apologize when asked. How could anyone support that?
    While that may be the rule of the school board, that doesn't mean it's legitimate nor reasonable.

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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaIncognito View Post
    While that may be the rule of the school board, that doesn't mean it's legitimate nor reasonable.
    Rules are rules. I can't believe the petulant attitude I am seeing here, it is shocking that any mature adult would defend the behavior of this disobedient child.

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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Rules are rules. I can't believe the petulant attitude I am seeing here, it is shocking that any mature adult would defend the behavior of this disobedient child.
    Sometimes rules need to be broken. A little disobedience goes a long way to ensuring that people don't become over-compliant with any relation to authority and take a skeptical perspective with established methods of social conduct.

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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Rules are rules. I can't believe the petulant attitude I am seeing here, it is shocking that any mature adult would defend the behavior of this disobedient child.
    No where does it say it was a violation of school rules, you made that up. And besides what kind of Libertarian supports the idea of public schools, part of the government, being allowed to tell people what they can and cannot say to this kind of a degree.

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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    Seriously? I'd tell them to take the diploma and shove it up their asses. I might even say the F-word in the process.
    I would definitely say the F-word, along with the F-you-word, the S-word, the CS-words, the MF-words...well...you get the picture.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    No where does it say it was a violation of school rules, you made that up. And besides what kind of Libertarian supports the idea of public schools, part of the government, being allowed to tell people what they can and cannot say to this kind of a degree.
    Public schools should be abolished altogether. But that is a topic for another thread.

    As it stands, public schools do exist, and they can tell kids what they can and cannot say.

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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaIncognito View Post
    Sometimes rules need to be broken. A little disobedience goes a long way to ensuring that people don't become over-compliant with any relation to authority and take a skeptical perspective with established methods of social conduct.
    Disobedience has consequences. Only petulant children think otherwise.

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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Disobedience has consequences. Only petulant children think otherwise.
    That's your opinion.

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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaIncognito View Post
    That's your opinion.
    It is also a fact of life.

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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

    All schools have cussin policies. However once a diploma has been earned I don't see the reasonableness of denying a diploma to a high merit student. Not that a school system needs to be reasonable. Problem is once the school board/member/principle dug in their/his/her heels there isn't a graceful way to admit there isn't a lot they can do to the merit student. I'm sure the policy manual doesn't list denial of diploma if a student says a cuss word.

    Not a rant, not cussing out a teacher, not threatening anyone.

    Not drinking or doing drugs

    Didn't cheat on finals.

    Seems to me this is like hanging someone for jaywalking.

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