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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Glad to see that some people still possess common sense.
    I think it's nothing more than pride and being stubborn. It's not like this is some great protest. I really wonder what she hopes to accomplish? Allowing kids to say "hell" and perhaps other curse words when they're delivering a speech in front of parents, grandparents, little children? I don't think it's too much to ask to keep a clean mouth when you're in certain venues. It's called "civility" and "respect" for others. And if she made a mistake, and a word slipped out, then she should be woman enough to apologize, but by the way she is acting she is obviously still just a child.

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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    I agree, but if her not apologizing, cost her a big scholarship, how is that better for her?
    It won't cost her a scholarship unless she had planned to go to Bobby Jones University or a bible college.

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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I don't think it's a big deal for her to just apologize. She should pick her battles more wisely. Really, what is she battling about? Is it such a big deal to apologize for swearing and worth all of this? For what purpose? She herself admitted that she made a "mistake" so why not just say I'm sorry that I cursed in front of everyone. It's really, really kind of stupid when you think about it, and relatively unimportant.
    So why is the SCHOOL making such a big deal about it.

    "Lick my dirty boot" or I'll ruin your future sounds kind of fascist to me.

    "Do what i say because i say so" isnt much better.

    Who knows what the truth is here. Sounds to me like theres something we're not hearing.
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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

    Good gravy-
    The graduating High School Senior isn't a child
    She didn't break any rules
    The Administration has retreated into 'confidential' reasons
    No one should have to apologize to a petty bureaucrat for some personal 'secret' reason in this country. To claim she must teaches her the wrong lesson.

    Guy I. calling her a child, wrongdoer, petulant doesn't strengthen your case. I'd say you have no case at all.

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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Good gravy-
    The graduating High School Senior isn't a child
    She didn't break any rules
    The Administration has retreated into 'confidential' reasons
    No one should have to apologize to a petty bureaucrat for some personal 'secret' reason in this country. To claim she must teaches her the wrong lesson.

    Guy I. calling her a child, wrongdoer, petulant doesn't strengthen your case. I'd say you have no case at all.
    I called her a petulant child too, because that is how she is acting. She admits that she let a word slip out by mistake. Any reasonable mature adult would apologize for a mistake they made. I don't anything about the school, and that is irrelevant because I think MOST schools would not appreciate a student swearing on stage while delivering a speech in such a venue. It is just not appropriate, and an ADULT would be able to realize this. Yes, we have to practice restraint at times as adults. We act appropriately when in the company of others and respect other people's feelings. This girl obviously has a lot of growing up to do IMO.

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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    If I understand this correctly, a student gave a speech using language in violation of school policy and refused to apologize when asked. How could anyone support that?
    ...um...perhaps because the policy is arbitrary and draconian, and -- were it not for the political vulnerability of students, especially minors -- wouldn't have seen the light of day if attempted with legal adults?

    (Where else would you be able to convince a bunch of folks to work for four years under conditions and on a curriculum they have little to no input in, and then have the certificate of having completed that work revoked based upon simply saying a word?!?)

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    I am shocked to see people, ostensibly grown adults, defending the actions of kid who refuses to apologize for her wrongful behavior.
    ...except that it is not established that she did anything wrong. You DO comprehend the difference between (allegedly) against the rules vs. ethically wrong, don't you?

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito
    It is astonishing, really. Sad. Pathetic. Not to mention a bad example for our nation's children.
    Yeah...the NERVE of that student...speaking freely and using a Forbidden Syllable. Which scarlet letter should we use for the capital crime of Using A Forbidden Syllable?

    The sad part is that I can't tell if you're joking, because there are folks here who would write what you've written and be completely serious. Classic case of POE.
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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

    Alright ... time to drop the smoke and mirrors (polite way of saying, Bovine processed oats).

    She is in college. When, (not if) she gets her degree ... the only thing the employer is interested in is the college diploma. In fact, I seriously doubt if anyone will know (or care) which HS she went to. The ONLY thing all this nonsense does is to show how galactically idiotic a public school districts' administration can be.

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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

    Chris-
    she said she made a mistake and shouldn't have said hell. THAT should be the end of it as there is NO, ZERO, NADA, NIX, NON rule against her using the word hell.

    You and Guy I. seem to gloss over that fact to call her petulant. She broke no rule, just could have use a bit more care in the choice of words.

    Not diploma with holding worthy.

    She said she made a mistake, the Principle should have been satisfied with that, something else must be going on in this to have the Superintendent blow smoke with a 'confidential' reason.

    Personally I see the honor student saying she made a mistake as prodded on by a third party saying that would show good faith, placate the Principle and smooth it all over.

    However saying she made a mistake doesn't justify the Principle acting less mature than the honor student, nor with holding the diploma.

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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

    If she is already in college, no big deal.
    I was concerned that the university might not accept her without a
    high school diploma.

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