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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    I don't see the connection. I do see a lot of arguing from emotion coming from your end. I can of imagine what rational reason anybody could have for supporting this petulant, stubborn, disobedient child.
    Have you ever met Tigger? You guys might become best buds.

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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    She will not have "earned" her diploma until she apologizes.
    Why don't you look up the requirements to receive a diploma in that Oklahoma school system and I bet you won't find where it says the school can do this.

    She earned the diploma with he hard work. Anything that happens after the end of the school year has no bearing on her diploma in any way.

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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    I wonder what the state accrediting agency would say.
    From a strictly technical point of view, she meets the requirements to graduate.
    Schools can withhold diplomas for things like library fines,
    but in this case it may cost her real money.
    Scholarships may be put in jeopardy.
    I think she should treat it like a traffic stop, be polite, apologize, and move on with her life.
    It may not be right, but is the path of least resistance.
    It "might not be right" to apologize for breaking school rules and publicly using profanity at a school function?

    I agree that she should be polite and apologize, but rules are rules. It is right when a speeder gets in trouble for breaking traffi e rulea and it is right when a student gets in trouble for breaking school rules.

    If you want to be rude and refuse to apologize to a traffic stop, see how far that will get you. But beyond that, there is no justification for the rudeness, since the person who did the deed bears the responsibility. So somebody is going five over the speed limit, cop pulls him over and the guy is rude so the cop writes him a ticket. If the guy had apologized the cop probably would have just let him off with a warning. But the rudeness and failure to apologize made a bad situation worse.

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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Why don't you look up the requirements to receive a diploma in that Oklahoma school system and I bet you won't find where it says the school can do this.

    She earned the diploma with he hard work. Anything that happens after the end of the school year has no bearing on her diploma in any way.
    You're simply and utterly wrong.

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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    I don't see the connection. I do see a lot of arguing from emotion coming from your end. I can of imagine what rational reason anybody could have for supporting this petulant, stubborn, disobedient child.
    You see emotion coming from me?

    Do you not understand the concept of earning something and being entitled to that same thing?

    He uttering a word, no matter how bad, is no reason to take away her right to her diploma.

    It is funny you do not see high school students as adults nor as american citizens.

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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    It "might not be right" to apologize for breaking school rules and publicly using profanity at a school function?

    I agree that she should be polite and apologize, but rules are rules. It is right when a speeder gets in trouble for breaking traffi e rulea and it is right when a student gets in trouble for breaking school rules.

    If you want to be rude and refuse to apologize to a traffic stop, see how far that will get you. But beyond that, there is no justification for the rudeness, since the person who did the deed bears the responsibility. So somebody is going five over the speed limit, cop pulls him over and the guy is rude so the cop writes him a ticket. If the guy had apologized the cop probably would have just let him off with a warning. But the rudeness and failure to apologize made a bad situation worse.
    There were/are no rules regarding profanity. She did not break any rules.

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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    Have you ever met Tigger? You guys might become best buds.
    We are at polar opposites of the political spectrum.

    It is deeply shameful to see all these people defending the obvious wrongdoer in this situation.

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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Das Sozialist View Post
    There were/are no rules regarding profanity. She broke no rules.
    Hey, what do you know, you are still absolutely wrong, just like the last time you wrongly said this wrong thing. Did I mention yet hat you are wrong?

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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Hey, what do you know, you are still absolutely wrong, just like the last time you wrongly said this wrong thing. Did I mention yet hat you are wrong?
    You mentioned it but still haven't backed it up. You've been making claims in this thread with absolutely no proof and you've repeatedly ignored questions I've asked you. It's supposed to be a debate, not a one-sided conversation.

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    Re: Valedictorian denied high school diploma for saying hell in speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    You see emotion coming from me?

    Do you not understand the concept of earning something and being entitled to that same thing?

    He uttering a word, no matter how bad, is no reason to take away her right to her diploma.

    It is funny you do not see high school students as adults nor as american citizens.
    I only see emotion and I see a conspicuous absence of logic. Perhaps you had a bad experience with school administrators growing up? Your personal motivations are immaterial. Nevertheless, you wear your emotions on your sleeve, it is highly transparent where your feelings lie, and this is no doubt responsible for your failure to address this discussion reasonably.

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