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    Re: Pizza Franchise Creates ‘Not After Dark’ Delivery Rule In Detroit After Driver Sh

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Well Goshin, we seem to have at least two things in common - besides great pizza we also seem to have a love of Middle-earth.
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    Re: Pizza Franchise Creates ‘Not After Dark’ Delivery Rule In Detroit After Driver Sh

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    I'd like to point out that that isn't quite the same thing as being a pizza delivery driver, who carries cash to make change, after dark.
    And that is a valid point. I was simply pointing out that what many think about Detroit is not always the complete picture.
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    Re: Pizza Franchise Creates ‘Not After Dark’ Delivery Rule In Detroit After Driver Sh

    I am still trying to wrap my head around the courts saying a delivery place can't choose where to deliver.

    That is seriously disturbing to me.
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    Re: Pizza Franchise Creates ‘Not After Dark’ Delivery Rule In Detroit After Driver Sh

    Quote Originally Posted by Aberration View Post
    I am still trying to wrap my head around the courts saying a delivery place can't choose where to deliver.

    That is seriously disturbing to me.
    The court finding falls under the anti-discrimination laws. The concern is that businesses will not service minority areas the same as they would "safer" neighborhoods. There was a similar issue with cabdrivers in NYC who refused to drive people to certain areas where they were being robbed and killed.

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    Re: Pizza Franchise Creates ‘Not After Dark’ Delivery Rule In Detroit After Driver Sh

    Quote Originally Posted by Aberration View Post
    I am still trying to wrap my head around the courts saying a delivery place can't choose where to deliver.
    That is seriously disturbing to me.
    Where did you read that the courts said any such thing?
    Where did that impression come from?

    It's not in the article of the OP.
    There doesn't seem to be any indication via Google that any such thing has actually occurred.
    AFAICT, the story about Jets Pizza was published / reported two days ago.
    I honestly doubt that anything has made it through the court system over the weekend.

    And not only where did the idea come from, how has it grown legs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    The court finding falls under the anti-discrimination laws. The concern is that businesses will not service minority areas the same as they would "safer" neighborhoods. There was a similar issue with cabdrivers in NYC who refused to drive people to certain areas where they were being robbed and killed.
    What court finding?

    Would you please be so kind as to indulge my curiosity?
    No one else has been able to provide any evidence of Jets Pizza being required to deliver to Detroit.
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    Re: Pizza Franchise Creates ‘Not After Dark’ Delivery Rule In Detroit After Driver Sh

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Hopefully that pizza chain fights that idiotic ruling. A delivery places should be free to refuse to deliver to any area they feel is dangerous to their employees while still being able to deliver to areas they feel are safe for their employees.
    If it can be demonstrated that a neighborhood is high crime area, no fast food business should be compelled to make deliveries there, regardless of the racial makeup of the neighborhood.
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    Re: Pizza Franchise Creates ‘Not After Dark’ Delivery Rule In Detroit After Driver Sh

    I don't blame them a bit. Imo, it's not worth putting your employees' lives at risk to make the extra money. If the people in Detroit can't get their **** together, and act like decent human beings, they can end up without pizza delivery services at all, as far as I am concerned.
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    Re: Pizza Franchise Creates ‘Not After Dark’ Delivery Rule In Detroit After Driver Sh

    Quote Originally Posted by Sig View Post
    If it can be demonstrated that a neighborhood is high crime area, no fast food business should be compelled to make deliveries there, regardless of the racial makeup of the neighborhood.
    AFAICT, none of them are.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Pizza Franchise Creates ‘Not After Dark’ Delivery Rule In Detroit After Driver Sh

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    What baloney - or outright cowardice caused by self imposed fear.

    I am a 63 year old white guy who is in Detroit a great deal because of my job. I walk the streets and neighborhoods and go to houses that would appear to have you quaking in your soiled boots just thinking about. We just knocked on over 5,000 doors in a four by six mile area and some of it is very poverty stricken. Nobody bothered me. And I am not armed or with a cadre of black guys wearing colors.

    And I lived to tell about it.
    Maybe not, but you're old.

    I said that to be funny, but there is truth in that humor, Haymarket. Senior citizens, and white ones at that, aren't usually the targets of gang violence. I'd hate to be a 24-year-old guy with his girl walking in such neighborhoods. He's a mark because of his age. He's also got the lit fuse on his arm. Baaaad business in some neighborhoods.
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    Re: Pizza Franchise Creates ‘Not After Dark’ Delivery Rule In Detroit After Driver Sh

    We used to get combat pay in the army in the 60's. Why would any "manager" feel justified in sending a person in to harms way? Wasn't Cabrini Green leveled becuase of the violence. Laws are being passed all over this country forbidding teens to drive after curfew and to drive with more than one other teen in the car. Since this culture is what it is with no hope of change such rule and laws will be passed. My work location had to put up razor wire surrrounding our parking lot because of daily episodes with car thieves. It looks like Auschwitz now.
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