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    Re: Pizza Franchise Creates ‘Not After Dark’ Delivery Rule In Detroit After Driver Sh

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    Can you share a ink to that?
    Its not coming up for me simon....I dont remember exactly when it was...but it was a good while ago...maybe haymarket remembers

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    Re: Pizza Franchise Creates ‘Not After Dark’ Delivery Rule In Detroit After Driver Sh

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    This has happened before in Detroit...judge ruled you cant stop delivery in just one neighborhood you have to stop delivery entirely...thats what this chain has done...What a shame it has to come to this...


    Has it come to this? Yes it has, according to Joan McKenna, whose son Tim McKenna, 19, was shot while delivering pizza in Detroit. In the wake of the shooting, a Jets Pizza franchise in Dearborn ruled it will no longer deliver to Detroit after dark. Before the shooting, they sent two drivers to every nighttime Detroit delivery, one of whom was armed, Joan McKenna said.
    “They usually send somebody with a guy … who carries a gun,” she said. “Usually they have two go into Detroit after dark, if they have a delivery … One guy has a legal, he can carry a gun. That night, Timmy was the only one left, they had this one run to do, he said ‘yeah, I’ll do it.’ He’s a kid, he doesn’t think anything’s going to happen to him.”


    Pizza Franchise Creates ‘Not After Dark’ Delivery Rule In Detroit After Driver Shot « CBS Detroit

    I lived in Detroit. Below 8 MIle Road, the real inner city, and I still have relatives that live there, but they got out of the old neighborhood, with good reason.

    When I visit, there is no way in hell, I'd go back to the old neighborhood in broad daylight. Unless I had a CWP, because it is very, very dangerous. So when I read the OP, I wasn't surprised at all.

    Anyone who wants delivery service to continue, should have to do the delivering, IMO.
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    Re: Pizza Franchise Creates ‘Not After Dark’ Delivery Rule In Detroit After Driver Sh

    My current understanding is that a business can refuse service to anyone as long as it's not because that person belongs to one of the legally protected groups.

    I don't see anything in the article which references courts or rulings or any similar such.
    Where did the idea come from that there was some court ruling in re this news article?
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Pizza Franchise Creates ‘Not After Dark’ Delivery Rule In Detroit After Driver Sh

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    LEOs have no obligation/duty to protect citizens. That's already been adjudicated. ;

    You know the old saying...."When seconds count, the coppers are minutes away." Cops can't protect pizza delivery drivers. What an idiotic ruling, by the way.
    It's getting to the point that it's becoming illegal to protect yourself from harmful areas or offend people. Frankly I say to people if you want the same service as the better neighborhoods get rid of the scum in yours. People talk, so when you know the people responsible for 99% of your neighborhood's problems for god's sake sell them the **** out.
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    Re: Pizza Franchise Creates ‘Not After Dark’ Delivery Rule In Detroit After Driver Sh

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    It's getting to the point that it's becoming illegal to protect yourself from harmful areas or offend people. Frankly I say to people if you want the same service as the better neighborhoods get rid of the scum in yours. People talk, so when you know the people responsible for 99% of your neighborhood's problems for god's sake sell them the **** out.
    The City of Chicago has very strict laws on the city taxi cabs. Taxi drivers are scared to go into some neighborhoods in the city; but refuse to go? You'll lose your medallion.
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    Re: Pizza Franchise Creates ‘Not After Dark’ Delivery Rule In Detroit After Driver Sh

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    The City of Chicago has very strict laws on the city taxi cabs. Taxi drivers are scared to go into some neighborhoods in the city; but refuse to go? You'll lose your medallion.
    See, that's ridiculous. The city disarms people, doesn't control crime in the forgotten areas, then tells those they've disarmed to "just deal with it". Sorry, but I don't go into suicide situations, I'll go into survival improbable situations if it's important, but a dollar isn't worth being at a lethal disadvantage.
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    Re: Pizza Franchise Creates ‘Not After Dark’ Delivery Rule In Detroit After Driver Sh

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Have you eaten their pizza?
    When they opened a place near us we got one. To me, pizza has four main categories:

    the worst and lowest is the five dollar pizza pizza that is aimed at families with kids

    the second is stuff like Jets - franchise stuff which tries to be a cut above the pizza pizza cardboard and still be economical

    the third is good Italian restaurant pizza made by people who care and use fresh ingredients and charge a good 50% more than the second tier

    the fourth is the more expensive artisan pizza made in wood burning ovens with special ingredients and costs the most.

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    Re: Pizza Franchise Creates ‘Not After Dark’ Delivery Rule In Detroit After Driver Sh

    Quote Originally Posted by Billy the Kid View Post
    I lived in Detroit. Below 8 MIle Road, the real inner city, and I still have relatives that live there, but they got out of the old neighborhood, with good reason.

    When I visit, there is no way in hell, I'd go back to the old neighborhood in broad daylight. Unless I had a CWP, because it is very, very dangerous. So when I read the OP, I wasn't surprised at all.

    Anyone who wants delivery service to continue, should have to do the delivering, IMO.
    What baloney - or outright cowardice caused by self imposed fear.

    I am a 63 year old white guy who is in Detroit a great deal because of my job. I walk the streets and neighborhoods and go to houses that would appear to have you quaking in your soiled boots just thinking about. We just knocked on over 5,000 doors in a four by six mile area and some of it is very poverty stricken. Nobody bothered me. And I am not armed or with a cadre of black guys wearing colors.

    And I lived to tell about it.
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    Re: Pizza Franchise Creates ‘Not After Dark’ Delivery Rule In Detroit After Driver Sh

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    It's getting to the point that it's becoming illegal to protect yourself from harmful areas or offend people.
    Where does this impression come from?
    Is there any indication that Jets Pizza is facing any legal ramifications from their decision not to deliver to Detroit after dark?
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Pizza Franchise Creates ‘Not After Dark’ Delivery Rule In Detroit After Driver Sh

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    Where does this impression come from?
    Is there any indication that Jets Pizza is facing any legal ramifications from their decision not to deliver to Detroit after dark?
    It was mentioned earlier that courts have decided that area specific non-serve was illegal and that is why there is a city wide blackout. So yes, if they serve to a safe neighborhood they would have to serve to a dangerous one so they decided to blackout to keep their drivers safe.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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