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    Re: Handcuffed suspect shoots himself while in the back of a police cruiser

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I would imagine that securing the suspect and assuring safety of the suspect and themselves would be their FIRST priority. If you fail that, you have totally ****ed up the job.
    Based on this alone they are fired. Whether they killed him or not. The question is if they are going to be behind bars for life or not. If the suspect could have shot himself in the head he could have just as easily shot the cops with an ambush when they went to remove him from the car. Instinct tells me assassination or hobby murderist.
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    Re: Handcuffed suspect shoots himself while in the back of a police cruiser

    A slight downward trajectory? So, he raised his hands up higher than his head while handcuffed?

    Is that even possible?
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    Re: Handcuffed suspect shoots himself while in the back of a police cruiser

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    A slight downward trajectory? So, he raised his hands up higher than his head while handcuffed?
    Is that even possible?
    Or he turned / tilted his head. We don't know that his head was completely upright when the bullet entered.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Handcuffed suspect shoots himself while in the back of a police cruiser

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    Or he turned / tilted his head. We don't know that his head was completely upright when the bullet entered.
    Try putting your hands behind you and reaching the top of your head. If you can do it, you're a lot more flexible than I am.
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    Re: Handcuffed suspect shoots himself while in the back of a police cruiser

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Try putting your hands behind you and reaching the top of your head. If you can do it, you're a lot more flexible than I am.
    Don't need to reach it. Only need to be able to draw a straight line from my hand to an upper part of my head.

    All this guy has to do is tilt his head a little and the shot would go slightly from top toward the bottom of the skull



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    Re: Handcuffed suspect shoots himself while in the back of a police cruiser

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    Based on this alone they are fired. Whether they killed him or not. The question is if they are going to be behind bars for life or not. If the suspect could have shot himself in the head he could have just as easily shot the cops with an ambush when they went to remove him from the car. Instinct tells me assassination or hobby murderist.
    Guilty until PROVEN innocent. Guilt by allegation. I have lot's of trouble with these.

    Just because I said the above does not mean that (as Billy Shakespeare said - I "Hamlet" I believe) "something's rotten in Denmark". I do think there's plenty rotten in Jonesboro.

    The street thugs get the rights guarenteed by the Constitution ... these officers should as well. If, as I suspect, they are guilty, then like the potential juror in "My Cousin Vinney" said, "Fry 'em".

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    Re: Handcuffed suspect shoots himself while in the back of a police cruiser

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Oh!!! That I have no idea about. They didn't find it?? That's crazy, then.

    Just Googled an NBC or ABC link. The found the gun "lying near him." To those who say the officers didn't hear a gunshot. Yes, they did.



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    Re: Handcuffed suspect shoots himself while in the back of a police cruiser

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    Don't need to reach it. Only need to be able to draw a straight line from my hand to an upper part of my head.

    All this guy has to do is tilt his head a little and the shot would go slightly from top toward the bottom of the skull



    How does that produce a downward trajectory?
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    Re: Handcuffed suspect shoots himself while in the back of a police cruiser

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    Guilty until PROVEN innocent. Guilt by allegation. I have lot's of trouble with these.

    Just because I said the above does not mean that (as Billy Shakespeare said - I "Hamlet" I believe) "something's rotten in Denmark". I do think there's plenty rotten in Jonesboro.

    The street thugs get the rights guarenteed by the Constitution ... these officers should as well. If, as I suspect, they are guilty, then like the potential juror in "My Cousin Vinney" said, "Fry 'em".

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    I never said they were guilty. (although I think they probably are) I said they are fired.
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    Re: Handcuffed suspect shoots himself while in the back of a police cruiser

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I think some cop's career is over.
    Damn sure better be...thats just beyond incompetence... Seriously I dont know if mistakes like this were always made...but I never remember wild crap like this...could be the media reports it more now...but ill tell ya there was never any of these kinds of incompetent idiot events happening when i was still working....

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