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    re: Pussy Riot jail terms condemned as 'disproportionate'

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    I agree on some levels but Boris Teltsin had them moving in the right direction but slowly they have gone back to the days of old. From what I have seen and heard though there are millions of Russians that wont go quielty into the night
    They are like frogs in slowly warming water.

    Look what we have been subjected to over the last several years and see what has happened to our rights and freedoms.

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    re: Pussy Riot jail terms condemned as 'disproportionate'

    FREE PUSSY RIOT



    Quote Originally Posted by 24107 View Post
    These ''Pussycat's'' message at their concerts is to incite violence. And i do think your being a tad dramatic.
    Why would you defend this sentence by inventing stuff (violence)?




    As the outcry continues after the anti-Putin Pussy Riot singers were jailed for two years over a 50-second cathedral protest, former world chess champion Garry Kasparov was arrested for his protestations outside the court. After today's staggering news, leader of the opposition, the mild-mannered Kasparov was shown in forceful terms that the the Russian security forces are clamping down on unrest. The pictures clearly show Kasparov being manhandled by the Russian police as a growing clamour of disbelief begins to spread at the severe sentencing...

    The verdict – which could see them sent to Siberian labour camps – is likely to spark a weekend of protest in Russia and in cities around the world...

    While the sentence for ‘hooliganism motivated by religious hatred’ was relatively light compared with the seven-year maximum, the case is widely seen as a ‘show trial’ warning to others daring to challenge Putin’s ‘authoritarian rule’.

    The trio had expected no mercy for their political protest. Tolokonnikova said shortly before the verdict, which she assumed was written in the Kremlin: ‘I do not believe in this court. There is no court. It is an illusion.’

    Russian opposition leader Kasparov, the former chess world champion, was one of dozens arrested outside the court in a huge security clampdown.

    Read more: Pussy Riot trial: Garry Kasparov dragged away from massive protest | Mail Online

    A police source told Itar-Tass news agency 50 people had been detained near the court when scuffles broke out. Among them were Sergei Udaltsov, a leftist opposition leader, and Garry Kasparov, a Putin critic and former world chess champion.

    But there was no sign of the opposition taking to the streets in anger. Opposition leaders plan a small gathering in Moscow on Sunday, the anniversary of a failed coup shortly before the Soviet Union fell in 1991, but the next big anti-Putin rally is not planned until September 15...

    U.S. State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland said Washington was concerned about the "disproportionate sentences ... and the negative impact on freedom of expression in Russia", and urged Russian authorities "to review this case".

    EU foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton said the sentence called into question Russia's respect for the "obligations of fair, transparent, and independent legal process".

    Russia's female punk band protesters jailed for two years | Reuters


    I think if this happened in the US, some members would be freaking out about how the US is fascist.
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    re: Pussy Riot jail terms condemned as 'disproportionate'

    They never left that mindset.

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    re: Pussy Riot jail terms condemned as 'disproportionate'

    Oh not not hooliganism! Couldn't they just be charged with shenanigans or tom foolery?
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    re: Pussy Riot jail terms condemned as 'disproportionate'

    There was an enormous missed opportunity in the 1990's. What went unrealized was that Russia required hundreds of billions in transitional assistance to make a stable descent into a market economy.

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    Re: Pussy Riot jail terms condemned as 'disproportionate'

    I'm surprised nobody commented on the Russian polls. Most of the locals actually support the sentencing, according to these polls. Seems many of them want to return to those good ol' Soviet days.

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    Re: Pussy Riot jail terms condemned as 'disproportionate'

    Quote Originally Posted by AreteCourage View Post
    Oh not not hooliganism! Couldn't they just be charged with shenanigans or tom foolery?
    lol @ tom foolery..... nice one....
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    Re: Pussy Riot jail terms condemned as 'disproportionate'

    We can be jailed without charge or trial, we have free speech zones, numerous reporters were arrested at ows, we have a kill list that has included citizens, we have warrantless wiretapping and police routinely execute people so I find it difficult to get that worked up about a band in Russia. Maybe a better question is why this story has received so much press?

    I have no idea about the fairness of the Russian election but I do know we put a guy into office who got less votes because of the electoral college. As bad as the electoral college is it's not as bad as the Diebold(they've changed names) voting machines which are an absolute joke. Then take into account that for the most part to get elected the candidate has to be a donkey or an elephant. I don't see how we can throw stones at another country about their election process when you take an honest look at what we have. Is it really any better than what they have in Russia?

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    Re: Pussy Riot jail terms condemned as 'disproportionate'

    I will agree with a previous poster the jailing a pussy riot really seems wrong.

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    Re: Pussy Riot jail terms condemned as 'disproportionate'

    Well the Russian court system really shut down Pussy Riot's message. No one will ever hear what Pussy Riot has to say now.
    [/sarcasm]

    This is not a new lesson. Idk, why people in these sorts of positions of power make this same mistake over and over. There've been plenty of previous cases where attacking the messenger raises the profile of the message beyond what the messenger could have ever hoped for.
    I may be wrong.

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