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    re: Secret Service bought cupcakes to thank baker for turning down Biden

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    Businesses can't legally deny service to someone for political reasons. There has to be another reason.

    Of course, the other reason can be concocted, but it must be defensible in court.

    Can you show where a business must serve any and all customers in the law?
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    re: Secret Service bought cupcakes to thank baker for turning down Biden

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    Businesses can't legally deny service to someone for political reasons. There has to be another reason.

    Of course, the other reason can be concocted, but it must be defensible in court.
    Oh, please. The Civil Rights Act doesn't cover one's political beliefs. A store owner can deny service to anyone except those in a protected class -- IF that is the reason they are denying service. Which, in this case, is NOT the case.
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    re: Secret Service bought cupcakes to thank baker for turning down Biden

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I think they're smart enough not to advertise that if it's the case, because that's probably about the fastest way to get fired.
    That's not true in government employment. In the government it takes at least a year to fire anyone, and the manager doing the firing has to be able to prove he/she has made every effort to accomodate and/or provide remedial training for the employee. What the managers usually do is reassign the employee to an undesirable job (often known in the bureaucracy as a turkey farm) and hope they resign. Since Obama has less than six months to serve, that would not be much of a deterrent to anyone fed up with arrogant incompetence of this president.
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    re: Secret Service bought cupcakes to thank baker for turning down Biden

    As a general rule of thumb, stories centered around the sale of cupcakes, pastries and other assorted baked goods aren't worthy of their own thread on a political forum.
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    re: Secret Service bought cupcakes to thank baker for turning down Biden

    Quote Originally Posted by Hare View Post
    As a general rule of thumb, stories centered around the sale of cupcakes, pastries and other assorted baked goods aren't worthy of their own thread on a political forum.
    But since this thread is centered around one small business that took a principled stand against political hooliganism, your comment doesn't really apply.
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    re: Secret Service bought cupcakes to thank baker for turning down Biden

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    But since this thread is centered around one small business that took a principled stand against political hooliganism, your comment doesn't really apply.
    Nah, it's centered around pastry related gossip, nothing really worth considering, discussing, or even worthy of mention.

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    re: Secret Service bought cupcakes to thank baker for turning down Biden

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    Maybe they don't like or respect the boss? Do you think that's ever happened?
    Most people who don't like their boss do not openly admit it or openly reward someone for dissecting and or refusing to do business with their boss because most people want to keep their jobs.
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    re: Secret Service bought cupcakes to thank baker for turning down Biden

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    That's not true in government employment. In the government it takes at least a year to fire anyone, and the manager doing the firing has to be able to prove he/she has made every effort to accomodate and/or provide remedial training for the employee. What the managers usually do is reassign the employee to an undesirable job (often known in the bureaucracy as a turkey farm) and hope they resign. Since Obama has less than six months to serve, that would not be much of a deterrent to anyone fed up with arrogant incompetence of this president.
    Your telling me that the vice president and president can't quickly have someone fired? I seriously doubt that.
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    re: Secret Service bought cupcakes to thank baker for turning down Biden

    Quote Originally Posted by Hare View Post
    As a general rule of thumb, stories centered around the sale of cupcakes, pastries and other assorted baked goods aren't worthy of their own thread on a political forum.

    Ah, but see Hare, this is not what the story is centered around....What it is about is a small business owner, that, you know, (didn't build that on his/her own) deciding not to let the Obama campaign use them as a prop in their campaign...I say good for them.

    Obama has been bitch slapping small business around since the start, and its about time they started smacking back.
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    re: Secret Service bought cupcakes to thank baker for turning down Biden

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Your telling me that the vice president and president can't quickly have someone fired? I seriously doubt that.
    They can certainly have them transferred immediately to an undesirable post, but outright dismissal requires civil service procedures to be followed.

    I can hardly wait for the tell-all books about this administration to start appearing.
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