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    Re: US buys more Saudi Oil

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    I don't understand what your point is. As the article demonstrates, and again as I had said, the Hijaz was conquered after World War I and the Hashemite dominion was overthrown. Official unification occurred several years after the regions were conquered. Also there was no oil or gas discovered in the Hijaz which in case you were not aware refers to the West Coast of Saudi Arabia primarily around Jeddah, Mecca, and Medina. The Hail refers to the Eastern Coast of Saudi Arabia and is where oil was discovered. The Hail was conquered in 1914, with the final remnants of the Rashidi clan surrendered in the early 1920's as they gave up the pieces of southern Jemash they still retained.

    You keep going round and round the fact that the country and region was united before oil became a factor, you have made no effort to link or demonstrate how oil fueled Saudi and tribal coffers during the unification wars.

    I study and work with the Persian Gulf and specifically Saudi Arabia for a living, originally I was just trying to explain that you had confused the chronology. Oil played a role in the development of the Saudi state, not in its unification. But now I'm not sure why you are being so stubborn about it. It is an objective fact that oil revenues did not play a role in unification and came after Saudi dominion had been established over the majority of its territory minus the Asir and Najran provinces in the Yemenite wars with the Zaydi Imamate.
    I bow to your greater knowledge on the subject. However, the country wasn't united until 1932, the same year the first oil exploration contracts were penned (because large deposits were discovered in nearby Bahrain). As you stated, the main source of income for the kingdom before 1932 was not oil. But they started building and extracting in Dhahran and by 1939 they were able to begin exportation. To say that they got no income from SoCal during that time, received nothing from those contracts, is a bit odd.

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    Re: US buys more Saudi Oil

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    I bow to your greater knowledge on the subject. However, the country wasn't united until 1932, the same year the first oil exploration contracts were penned (because large deposits were discovered in nearby Bahrain). As you stated, the main source of income for the kingdom before 1932 was not oil. But they started building and extracting in Dhahran and by 1939 they were able to begin exportation. To say that they got no income from SoCal during that time, received nothing from those contracts, is a bit odd.
    The unification of Saudi Arabia began in 1902...... and that was completed in 1924-1925.. It was named Saudi Arabia in 1932.

    Sherman knows his history.

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    Re: US buys more Saudi Oil

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    The unification happened the same time as oil was first discovered (by SoCal - Standard Oil of California), 1932. That began a year long negotiation for contract, SoCal got preference and beat out the other competitors, chief among them the Iraq Petroleum Company.
    No, it didn't... unification was complete by 1925.. The first oil concession was in 1938.. See Dammam Dome and Dammam # 7.

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