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    Re: Two deputies killed, two wounded in Louisiana shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    1) GIYLF

    2) You have not earned the right or ability to demand I do anything. You are a newbie whose posts do not demonstrate much reasoning.

    no study has ever indicated that what you want to do will make us safer. The studies show that gun control schemes people like you crave tend to impact ONLY HONEST PEOPLE

    criminals are already banned from even handling firearms.

    Cute! Not unexpected though. Make a totally absurd claim and then refuse to support it. Gee I wonder why that might be ... nah, not really, I knew it wasn't going to be supported but the "veteran" likes to make up his own rules.


    NO study shows that completely free access to firearms creates a safer society - well, none that have been accepted as anything more than propaganda.
    “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
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    Re: Two deputies killed, two wounded in Louisiana shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    1) GIYLF

    2) You have not earned the right or ability to demand I do anything. You are a newbie whose posts do not demonstrate much reasoning.

    no study has ever indicated that what you want to do will make us safer. The studies show that gun control schemes people like you crave tend to impact ONLY HONEST PEOPLE

    criminals are already banned from even handling firearms.
    I believe it was John Lott that started a study to prove the positive effects of gun control and then changed his position to the pro firearms side. Could be wrong on that but the trend appears to be open minded gun ban advocates tend to swing to the pro gun side.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Two deputies killed, two wounded in Louisiana shooting

    Criminals will ALWAYS be able to get guns, no matter how many BANS you create. That is what criminals do, they break laws. No matter how much you want them to, guns are never going to just go away.

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    Re: Two deputies killed, two wounded in Louisiana shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you cannot buy or own an assault rifle made after may 19, 1986 unless you are a title II manufacturer or a class III dealer with a police request for product samples

    ignorance of gun laws is a standard feature of hoplophobes
    Knock off the insults, boy.

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    Re: Two deputies killed, two wounded in Louisiana shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    if that is true why are civilian police departments issued them

    civilian police have no more right or power to kill people than you or I do

    so what that means is that police are issued such weapons for SELF DEFENSE AGAINST CRIMINALS

    which is the same legitimate purpose other civilians ought to be able to own them for
    Police are trained and disciplined and accountable for evey bullet they fire..

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    Re: Two deputies killed, two wounded in Louisiana shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    The 2005 death number was for SUICIDES - please take the time to read all of the words before replying.

    NO! There are not "24 deaths by criminals" every day. The majority of homicides are committed by persons acquainted or related to the victim. Technically the murderer is, once convicted, a criminal - that does not mean they would fit the commonly accepted definition of "criminal" which means a person who has committed numerous crimes and perhaps even makes a living from the proceeds of crimes. In 2009, 24.2 percent of victims were slain by family members; 53.8 percent were killed by someone they knew (acquaintance, neighbour, friend, boyfriend, etc.).

    Your Examiner link gives me the following


    An "assault rifle" will at some point be defined by legislation - that the NRA will scream about even though the majority of Americans will approve of the bill.
    Ah...so they arent 'criminals' until they are caught and convicted. THAT is what you build an argument on. and...so...wait...you are calling for a ban...of a weapon you cant even identify? You are just succumbing to simple minded rhetoric? We gots ta ban SOMEPIN!!!!!

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    Re: Two deputies killed, two wounded in Louisiana shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    Police are trained and disciplined and accountable for evey bullet they fire..
    Oh...WOW...THAT might not stand up to basic scrutiny. Want to bet?

    And...can YOU define the 'assault rifle' you want to see banned? We arent having much luck with that...

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    Re: Two deputies killed, two wounded in Louisiana shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Oh...WOW...THAT might not stand up to basic scrutiny. Want to bet?

    And...can YOU define the 'assault rifle' you want to see banned? We arent having much luck with that...
    There are bad cops, but they do make a serious effort to train and discipline officers who are NOT mental cases.

    Why would I know the laws on assault rifles? In my family were had shotguns, 45s and 38..

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    Re: Two deputies killed, two wounded in Louisiana shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    Police are trained and disciplined and accountable for evey bullet they fire..
    But 'civilians' are allowed to just shoot whatever they want whenever, right?

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    Re: Two deputies killed, two wounded in Louisiana shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    There are bad cops, but they do make a serious effort to train and discipline officers who are NOT mental cases.

    Why would I know the laws on assault rifles? In my family were had shotguns, 45s and 38..
    and yet...we regularly read accounts of people gunned down for carrying nothing more lethal than a wallet. As for the 'accountable for every bullet'....really? Google

    COnsidering the number of armed citizens vs armed police officers you would think there would be far MORE accidental shootings by citizens than officers, especially since citizens are FAR more likely to be targeted by criminals. And I love cops...work with lots of them...dont get me wrong...but I am better trained by far than most of the cops I know.

    And come ON for Gods sake...if you are going to clamor for a BAN on something...should you at LEAST know what it IS???

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