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    Re: 30-day war with Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by 24107 View Post
    People forget that a small Lebanese militia with soviet era rockets, caused alot of chaos in the 2006 33 day summer war. Now Iran is a different story, they have powerful ICBM's. Not to mention the fact that the Lebanese militia is going to join in with it's revamped arsenal of 40,000 to 50,000 rocket's and missles, that they claim can reach anywhere in Israel.

    Just saying, don't kill the messenger
    Iran does not have powerful ICBM's. Iran's greatest missile asset is its relatively large stockpile of Shahab-1, Shahab-2, and Fateh's that they can utilize if properly organized against regional enemies with some real degree of success simply because it is a target rich environment and it is difficult to interdict them all. However their long range missile program is grossly overstated and half pumped up by media acceptance of Iranian claims. They are notorious liars when it comes to their long range missile program, and their naval missile program. The big threat to Israel from Iran will not come from a well aimed Iranian missile barrage. For crying out loud the actual CEP of some of their missiles might as well be a cityscape.

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    Re: 30-day war with Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    And not to mention Egypt and Syria. Also the rest of the world would cut off Israel pretty much.. well not the US. Russia and China would be pissed as well.

    There is no "win" in this situation. Iran will be seen as the victim of Israeli aggression pure and simple.
    I don't follow. You are saying that an Israeli strike on Iran would compel... what? An Egyptian offensive against its neighbor despite all the evidence to the contrary? Or that the Syrian government mired upon the brink of collapse and expending all of its military energy to crush a rebellion would re-marshal (somehow) its forces for a serious attempt on Israel? The only thing I see value in, is the Syria scenario, and for other reasons.
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    Re: 30-day war with Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Yea attack Iran... there wont be any consequences for doing so... right?
    It's the consequences of not doing so that has Israel concerned...
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    Re: 30-day war with Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckBerry View Post
    It's the consequences of not doing so that has Israel concerned...
    that they will no longer hold the nuclear monopoly in the region
    the one that allows them to bomb sovereign nations with impunity



    too bad
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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    Re: 30-day war with Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckBerry View Post
    It's the consequences of not doing so that has Israel concerned...
    No, it is the right that has that concern, because their whole existence is determined by having "enemies" of some sort.
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    Re: 30-day war with Iran

    Sherman-
    you forget Israel got it's butt handed to it in the last, worst invasion of Lebanon. Iran doesn't need a massive wave of super ICBMs to kill far more than 500 Israelis. Hell they can do that with suicide bombers.

    Mya-
    The end of Zionist regime is way overplayed. The truth gets suppressed to create a 'victim'. The Zionist Regime refers to the insertion of a European Jewish State into an arab land. As many have asked, why does arab land have to be given to European Jews when it was European 'Christians' that watched, and be honest, helped kill 6 million Jews, give or take a trainload of 'em?

    Odd, we do kill a few million of 'em and that is a shrug, 'they' threaten to end what many see as an illegal regime and oh no... how 'barbaric'...

    Some are of the opinion peace won't come to the Middle East until Israel follows South Africa's evolution and incorporates those who tied the boats up with those who were pushed out of Europe.

    Oh my crystal ball says if Israel is piss ignorant to try and 'Cheney' Iran, the war will last longer than 30 days and 300 dead Jews- just the start. Israel can try and ride it's 7 day war rep but Arabs remember the last attempt to invade Lebanon.

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    Re: 30-day war with Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    that they will no longer hold the nuclear monopoly in the region
    the one that allows them to bomb sovereign nations with impunity



    too bad
    Nice to have someone admit that Iran is in fact developing a nuclear weapon, and not repeating the lie that they are enriching uranium for a domestic energy program.
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    Re: 30-day war with Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckBerry View Post
    Nice to have someone admit that Iran is in fact developing a nuclear weapon, and not repeating the lie that they are enriching uranium for a domestic energy program.
    of course they are developing nuclear arms capacity
    just as israel did
    they must, in self defense
    look what happens to nations in the region israel disagrees with ... only because israel believes it cannot be touched in return

    that will soon change
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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    Re: 30-day war with Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    of course they are developing nuclear arms capacity
    just as israel did
    they must, in self defense
    look what happens to nations in the region israel disagrees with ... only because israel believes it cannot be touched in return

    that will soon change
    Keep dreaming. The Zionist regime will stand regardless of your contempt for it.
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    Re: 30-day war with Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckBerry View Post
    It's the consequences of not doing so that has Israel concerned...
    Iran is psychotic (but changing as the more radical elements die off).

    But i find it hard to believe theyre suicidal.

    If they lob a nuke at Israel it will be the end of them.

    Iran chucks one of its couple of potential future "primitive" nukes and Israel turns Iran into a sheet of glass with its plentiful, precision targetable, thermonuclear weapons.

    "Preemption" is the ULTIMATE slippery slope.

    "They have FIRE. Its only a matter of time before the bombs start to fall."

    If we had allowed the civilian nuclear program that Iran demonstrably NEEDS, the one where fuel rods are provided and exchanged, we could have possibly avoided this mess.

    But no, we let Israel drag us around like theres a ring in our nose.
    Anyone wondering what I'm talking about start here:
    The Psychology of Persuasion

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