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Executive order from Governor Jan Brewer blocks IDs, benefits for illegal immigrants

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I hope other states follow suit. The easiest way of doing that is to require that in order to get and or renew a driver's licenses/IDs you must show birth certificate or a certificate of naturalization and a social security card an then require that in order to enroll into school,enroll kids into school, get welfare,voter registration, foodstamps,business license and another else you must present your Arizona state issued ID and social security card.This way no one can fraudulently claim their is racial profiling. Besides that federal law already bans illegals from getting benefits.



Executive order from Governor Jan Brewer blocks IDs, benefits for illegal immigrants
PHOENIX - Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer has signed an executive order directing state agencies to deny driver's licenses and other public benefits to young illegal immigrants who obtain work authorizations under a new Obama administration program.
Brewer's order issued Wednesday says she's reaffirming the intent of current Arizona law denying taxpayer-funded public benefits and state identification to illegal immigrants.

snip...

Brewer's order says the program's federal paperwork doesn't confer lawful status on illegal immigrants and won't entitle them to Arizona public benefits.
She directs state agencies to start emergency rulemaking processes as necessary to implement her order.

 
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Well it will be interesting to see where this goes
 
Re: Executive order from Governor Jan Brewer blocks IDs, benefits for illegal immigra

Well it will be interesting to see where this goes

SCOTUS, no doubt.
 
Re: Executive order from Governor Jan Brewer blocks IDs, benefits for illegal immigra

SCOTUS, no doubt.

Likely. I hold no hope for State's rights here.
 
Re: Executive order from Governor Jan Brewer blocks IDs, benefits for illegal immigra

The best way to get rid of illegals, after all, is to just kill them.
 
Re: Executive order from Governor Jan Brewer blocks IDs, benefits for illegal immigra

Well it will be interesting to see where this goes

Maybe the justice department will do the same there like they are with this illegal trying to get a license to practice law.Although under Obama's back door amnesty they would be here legally.

Justice Department opposes illegal immigrant's bid to practice law - latimes.com
In a brief to the California Supreme Court, theU.S. Department of Justicesaid federal law prohibits giving a public benefit, such as a bar license, to an "unlawfully present alien."

The federal law was "plainly designed to preclude undocumented aliens from receiving commercial and professional licenses issued by states and the federal government," a lawyer for the Justice Department wrote in a brief requested by the state high court.
 
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Maybe the justice department will do the same there like they are with this illegal trying to get a license to practice law.Although under Obama's back door amnesty they would be here legally.

Justice Department opposes illegal immigrant's bid to practice law - latimes.com
In a brief to the California Supreme Court, theU.S. Department of Justicesaid federal law prohibits giving a public benefit, such as a bar license, to an "unlawfully present alien."

Maybe. I'm gonna go with Arizona being forced to adhere to the law and I'm going to go with Interstate Commerce as being the excuse. It has no rational place being there, but man do the courts love that one.
 
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I hope other states follow suit. The easiest way of doing that is to require that in order to get and or renew a driver's licenses/IDs you must show birth certificate or a certificate of naturalization and a social security card an then require that in order to enroll into school,enroll kids into school, get welfare,voter registration, foodstamps,business license and another else you must present your Arizona state issued ID and social security card.This way no one can fraudulently claim their is racial profiling. Besides that federal law already bans illegals from getting benefits.



Executive order from Governor Jan Brewer blocks IDs, benefits for illegal immigrants
PHOENIX - Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer has signed an executive order directing state agencies to deny driver's licenses and other public benefits to young illegal immigrants who obtain work authorizations under a new Obama administration program.
Brewer's order issued Wednesday says she's reaffirming the intent of current Arizona law denying taxpayer-funded public benefits and state identification to illegal immigrants.

snip...

Brewer's order says the program's federal paperwork doesn't confer lawful status on illegal immigrants and won't entitle them to Arizona public benefits.
She directs state agencies to start emergency rulemaking processes as necessary to implement her order.


We have a real serious conflict of state vs federal with immigration. I'm sick of the federal government interfering with states who are having real problems with their illegal population. The Feds ought to keep their noses out of it. Enough already!
 
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We have a real serious conflict of state vs federal with immigration. I'm sick of the federal government interfering with states who are having real problems with their illegal population. The Feds ought to keep their noses out of it. Enough already!

I agree.Its not the feds who pays for these illegals.Its the tax payers in every state who are having to pay to deal with these illegals.
 
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This one is a bit more complex than the regular dumbassery that comes from Governor Brewer and the legislature here in Teapartia. Border states including Florida have had to follow federal mandates for years that, briefly explained, meant border states were not provided with funding to offset the costs of admitting/ignoring/whatever illegals. In other words the feds made the policies of inclusion for all states but did not provide money to the border states which provided services and benefits disproportionately to illegals. This has gone on for many years, i.e, long than the Obama Administration. It's always been an issue, but now times are different. Border states, especially can't foot the bills without lots of federal help. Ain't no federal help coming.

Arizona has a lot of illegals. They are costing the state and local infrastructure beau coup money. Illegals generally have a higher rate of criminal activity than legal citizens. It is NOT about race in that regard. It is about gainful employment and a chance to grab the brass ring, except the brass ring is gone now. You don't generally see educated and/or skilled workers who are employed and have community commitments stealing **** out of parked cars, robbing people, breaking into homes, yada, yada.

Many, many people have come to America from other countries and worked their way up. It WAS the American way. Even young Americans are finding it difficult these days.

Crime would decrease if poverty decreased. That's just the cold hard truth. Many, maybe most, illegals are poor. My Hispanic friends who live in or have family living in the barrios tell me that crime is greater in their neighborhoods because there are more illegals there. Makes sense. They blend in in predominant Hispanic neighborhoods. At the same time there are many good illegals who are working and doing all they can to make it here. If you don't already know, Mexicans are some of the hardest working people on earth.

I support Obama's policy of offering amnesty to the children of illegals with the stipulations as they are outlined. Those kids are not here by choice. Most speak English as their first language. Many have never been to Mexico. Some don't speak Spanish. If they meet the criteria, they should be allowed to stay.
 
Re: Executive order from Governor Jan Brewer blocks IDs, benefits for illegal immigra

This one is a bit more complex than the regular dumbassery that comes from Governor Brewer and the legislature here in Teapartia. Border states including Florida have had to follow federal mandates for years that, briefly explained, meant border states were not provided with funding to offset the costs of admitting/ignoring/whatever illegals. In other words the feds made the policies of inclusion for all states but did not provide money to the border states which provided services and benefits disproportionately to illegals. This has gone on for many years, i.e, long than the Obama Administration. It's always been an issue, but now times are different. Border states, especially can't foot the bills without lots of federal help. Ain't no federal help coming.

Arizona has a lot of illegals. They are costing the state and local infrastructure beau coup money. Illegals generally have a higher rate of criminal activity than legal citizens. It is NOT about race in that regard. It is about gainful employment and a chance to grab the brass ring, except the brass ring is gone now. You don't generally see educated and/or skilled workers who are employed and have community commitments stealing **** out of parked cars, robbing people, breaking into homes, yada, yada.

Many, many people have come to America from other countries and worked their way up. It WAS the American way. Even young Americans are finding it difficult these days.

Crime would decrease if poverty decreased. That's just the cold hard truth. Many, maybe most, illegals are poor. My Hispanic friends who live in or have family living in the barrios tell me that crime is greater in their neighborhoods because there are more illegals there. Makes sense. They blend in in predominant Hispanic neighborhoods. At the same time there are many good illegals who are working and doing all they can to make it here. If you don't already know, Mexicans are some of the hardest working people on earth.

I support Obama's policy of offering amnesty to the children of illegals with the stipulations as they are outlined. Those kids are not here by choice. Most speak English as their first language. Many have never been to Mexico. Some don't speak Spanish. If they meet the criteria, they should be allowed to stay.

"Being allowed to stay" is much different than their being eligible to the welfare programs that American taxpayers pay for. We can't afford it all.
 
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And if the children are allowed to stay, with whom will they stay if their parents are deported?
 
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I hope other states follow suit. The easiest way of doing that is to require that in order to get and or renew a driver's licenses/IDs you must show birth certificate or a certificate of naturalization and a social security card an then require that in order to enroll into school,enroll kids into school, get welfare,voter registration, foodstamps,business license and another else you must present your Arizona state issued ID and social security card.This way no one can fraudulently claim their is racial profiling. Besides that federal law already bans illegals from getting benefits.



Executive order from Governor Jan Brewer blocks IDs, benefits for illegal immigrants
PHOENIX - Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer has signed an executive order directing state agencies to deny driver's licenses and other public benefits to young illegal immigrants who obtain work authorizations under a new Obama administration program.
Brewer's order issued Wednesday says she's reaffirming the intent of current Arizona law denying taxpayer-funded public benefits and state identification to illegal immigrants.

snip...

Brewer's order says the program's federal paperwork doesn't confer lawful status on illegal immigrants and won't entitle them to Arizona public benefits.
She directs state agencies to start emergency rulemaking processes as necessary to implement her order.


Damn secret service. If they weren't thinking about prostitutes they would have taken this dumb skank out a whey she mouthed off on the tarmac. If they had tackled her, black bagged her ass to an undisclosed location, she'd never pull this ****.

Now the DOJ has to waste time shutting her down.
 
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Damn secret service. If they weren't thinking about prostitutes they would have taken this dumb skank out a whey she mouthed off on the tarmac. If they had tackled her, black bagged her ass to an undisclosed location, she'd never pull this ****.

Now the DOJ has to waste time shutting her down.


So in a pro-illegal libtard mind someone who is against illegal immigration,speaks out against illegal immigration and criticizes the president for basically making the the illegal immigration problem worse is now a dumb skank?



You should use this in your signature.
Ecclesiastes 10:2(NIV)
The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.
 
Re: Executive order from Governor Jan Brewer blocks IDs, benefits for illegal immigra

Maybe the justice department will do the same there like they are with this illegal trying to get a license to practice law.Although under Obama's back door amnesty they would be here legally.

Justice Department opposes illegal immigrant's bid to practice law - latimes.com
In a brief to the California Supreme Court, theU.S. Department of Justicesaid federal law prohibits giving a public benefit, such as a bar license, to an "unlawfully present alien."

The federal law was "plainly designed to preclude undocumented aliens from receiving commercial and professional licenses issued by states and the federal government," a lawyer for the Justice Department wrote in a brief requested by the state high court.

I cannot believe that Eric "approved this message".

AL
 
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I do not agree with you.

I support Obama's policy of offering amnesty to the children of illegals with the stipulations as they are outlined ... Most speak English as their first language.

I'm curious where you get this statistic. The only way it could be true is if the parents were English speakers.

I support Obama's policy of offering amnesty to the children of illegals with the stipulations as they are outlined ... Many have never been to Mexico.

Another curious statistic. How do you know this to be true?

I support Obama's policy of offering amnesty to the children of illegals with the stipulations as they are outlined ... Some don't speak Spanish.

This is true ... however, Latin America is NOT the only source of illegals. I think it's a safe bet that those from the ME don't speak Spanish.

I support Obama's policy of offering amnesty to the children of illegals with the stipulations as they are outlined. If they meet the criteria, they should be allowed to stay.

They are still here illegally. See what happens in the rest of the world when you are in the country illegally.

AL
 
Re: Executive order from Governor Jan Brewer blocks IDs, benefits for illegal immigra

So in a pro-illegal libtard mind someone who is against illegal immigration,speaks out against illegal immigration and criticizes the president for basically making the the illegal immigration problem worse is now a dumb skank?



You should use this in your signature.
Ecclesiastes 10:2(NIV)
The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.

Read my post again.

People who hurt children, should be spanked.

Bottom line, this women is now going down in flames, I hope she doesn't take the whole state with her.
 
Re: Executive order from Governor Jan Brewer blocks IDs, benefits for illegal immigra

Read my post again.

People who hurt children, should be spanked.

She is not hurting any children.

Bottom line, this women is now going down in flames, I hope she doesn't take the whole state with her.

How is this woman going down in flames? Arizonans support anti-illegal immigration laws.
 
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I support Obama's policy of offering amnesty to the children of illegals with the stipulations as they are outlined.

Obama is not offering amnesty to anchor babies.Anchor babies are already American citizens. He is offering a back door amnesty to illegals who were allegedly brought here as children and last I checked these illegals do not have to prove that they were brought here as kids.


DREAM Act rule gives illegals easy way to avoid charges | The Daily Caller

Those kids are not here by choice.
Once they turn 18 they are no longer kids and they are no longer here against their will.So they are here illegally by choice.

Most speak English as their first language.

No they don't.Most illegals come from Mexico.So that means Spanish is their first language,unless they are illegals that are citizens of Canada,English,Australia or some other English Speaking country.

Many have never been to Mexico.Some don't speak Spanish.

Of course,not all illegals are Mexican citizens. Some are Canadian,Chinese, or citizens of some other country.But most illegals are from Mexico.

If they meet the criteria, they should be allowed to stay.

They should be immediately deported for having the audacity to flaunt the fact they are here illegally, not rewarded with legal status. Plus these illegals are not even being asked to prove that they meet the criteria of Obama's back door amnesty.
 
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She should be applauded and rewarded for her efforts to stop illegal immigration. We need more people like her running our country and our states. Illegal Immigrants need to be removed. We need to stop wasting resources on these criminals. No housing. No food. No assistance. No welfare. No healthcare. No ID's. Nothing. Get them the **** out. We can't afford to help our own law abiding citizens. Why continue to waste money on these people.
 
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I hope other states follow suit. The easiest way of doing that is to require that in order to get and or renew a driver's licenses/IDs you must show birth certificate or a certificate of naturalization and a social security card an then require that in order to enroll into school,enroll kids into school, get welfare,voter registration, foodstamps,business license and another else you must present your Arizona state issued ID and social security card.This way no one can fraudulently claim their is racial profiling. Besides that federal law already bans illegals from getting benefits.



Executive order from Governor Jan Brewer blocks IDs, benefits for illegal immigrants
PHOENIX - Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer has signed an executive order directing state agencies to deny driver's licenses and other public benefits to young illegal immigrants who obtain work authorizations under a new Obama administration program.
Brewer's order issued Wednesday says she's reaffirming the intent of current Arizona law denying taxpayer-funded public benefits and state identification to illegal immigrants.

snip...

Brewer's order says the program's federal paperwork doesn't confer lawful status on illegal immigrants and won't entitle them to Arizona public benefits.
She directs state agencies to start emergency rulemaking processes as necessary to implement her order.

can't stand the bitch, but she got this one right
As the (Department of Homeland Security) has said repeatedly ... these individuals do not have lawful status. They are able to remain in the country and not be deported, and not be prosecuted, but they do not have lawful status.
from whitehouse.gov (and dhs.gov):
Today, the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services will begin accepting requests for consideration of deferred action for childhood arrivals. Deferred action is a discretionary determination to defer removal action of an individual as an act of prosecutorial discretion. Under this process, USCIS will consider requests on a case-by-case basis. While this process does not provide lawful status or a pathway to permanent residence or citizenship, individuals whose cases are deferred will not be removed from the United States for a two year period, subject to renewal, and may also receive employment authorization. ...
that says only that those illegals who meet the requirements of the executive order will not be pursued for prosecution for their undocumented alien status and that they are eligible to receive federal documentation to work
it does nothing to compel states to provide any benefits the state does not find illegals are entitled to receive, including state issued drivers licenses
 
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The best way to get rid of illegals, after all, is to just kill them.

Well, that is what mexico generally does.
 
Re: Executive order from Governor Jan Brewer blocks IDs, benefits for illegal immigra

I hope other states follow suit. The easiest way of doing that is to require that in order to get and or renew a driver's licenses/IDs you must show birth certificate or a certificate of naturalization and a social security card an then require that in order to enroll into school,enroll kids into school, get welfare,voter registration, foodstamps,business license and another else you must present your Arizona state issued ID and social security card.This way no one can fraudulently claim their is racial profiling. Besides that federal law already bans illegals from getting benefits.



Executive order from Governor Jan Brewer blocks IDs, benefits for illegal immigrants
PHOENIX - Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer has signed an executive order directing state agencies to deny driver's licenses and other public benefits to young illegal immigrants who obtain work authorizations under a new Obama administration program.
Brewer's order issued Wednesday says she's reaffirming the intent of current Arizona law denying taxpayer-funded public benefits and state identification to illegal immigrants.

snip...

Brewer's order says the program's federal paperwork doesn't confer lawful status on illegal immigrants and won't entitle them to Arizona public benefits.
She directs state agencies to start emergency rulemaking processes as necessary to implement her order.


There are pluses and minuses with Brewer's decision. On the plus side, illegals are pressured for being here illegally. But on the minus side, those who stay will drive without licenses, and of course, will not carry insurance. A much better solution would be to be criminally charge employers who knowingly employ illegal aliens. That would be much more effective. If illegals can't earn a living, then they will leave.
 
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Likely. I hold no hope for State's rights here.

Considering that the Fed's long ago quit paying attention to that whole 'states rights' thing, I feel the same.

Unfortunately too many citizens of this nation don't understand this bit of the constitution either, thus they just sit and let it happen.
 
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