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    Re: Executive order from Governor Jan Brewer blocks IDs, benefits for illegal immigra

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    A lot of these illegals make a fortune in construction Most of them pay no taxes, collect government benifits, steal american worker's tools, do shoddy work until it catches up with them [then they move to a new place] , are mexican nationalists [cinco de mayo], and send most of their money back to mexico.

    I am talking from experience working among them.
    Don't blame them. People do what's in their best interest.

    So I shouldn't be blamed for trying to stop them, cause it's in my best interest.
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    Re: Executive order from Governor Jan Brewer blocks IDs, benefits for illegal immigra

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    You source and the 'retired' economists quoted don't account for several present day 2012 labor realities. If California agriculture had to deal with unionized labor and keep a workforce employed beyond the picking season + workers comp, insurance. The nature of the farming relies on seasonal migrant labor--people willing to do backbreaking work for short periods and then leave. There are no American workers willing to fill this gap.

    If Texas slaughter houses had to deal with unions... workers comp, insurance, health insurance. As you can see, your article falls short of the realities of running a business legally.

    How exactly are grape farmers going to 'shift out of labor-intensive crops'. Growing Grapes for wine involves cultivating a grape over decades--soil, climate, etc. California wineries can't just decide to grow corn (machine based crop)

    I realize I'm not debating you at this point, I'm showing you the problems with your source. -- A lot has changed in labor law and practices since 1964-- your source doesn't account for this.

    NOOOOOooooooo, wait





    In one thing I concur with the abolitionists; that if emancipation is to be brought about, it is better that it should be immediate and total. But let us suppose it to be brought about in any manner, and then inquire what would be the effects.

    The first and most obvious effect, would be to put an end to the cultivation of our great Southern staple. And this would be equally the result, if we suppose the emancipated negroes to be in no way distinguished from the free labourers of other countries, and that their labor would b equally effective. . . Imagine an extensive rice or cotton plantation cultivated by free laborers, who might perhaps strike for an increase of wages, at a season when the neglect of a few days would insure the destruction of the whole crop. Even if it were possible to procure laborers at all, what planter would venture to carry on his operations under such circumstances? I need hardly say that these staples cannot be produced to any extent where the proprietor of the soil cultivates it with his own hands. He can do little more than produce the necessary food for himself and his family.

    And what would be the effect of putting an end to the cultivation of these staples, and thus annihilating, at a blow, two-thirds or three-fourths of our foreign commerce? Can any sane mind contemplate such a result without terror? I speak not of the utter poverty and misery to which we ourselves would be reduced, and the desolation which would overspread our own portion of the country. Our slavery has not only given existence to millions of slaves within our own territories, it has given the means of subsistence, and therefore, existence, to millions of freemen in our confederate States; enabling them to send forth their swarms to overspread the plains and forests of the West, and appear as the harbingers of civilization. The products of the industry of those States are in general similar to those of the civilized world, and are little demanded in their markets. By exchanging them for ours, which are everywhere sought for, the people of these States are enabled to acquire all the products of art and industry, all that contributes to convenience or luxury, or gratifies the taste of the intellect, which the rest of the world can supply. Not only on our own continent, but on the other, it has given existence to hundreds of thousands, and the means of comfortable subsistence to millions. A distinguished citizen of our own Stat, than whom none can be better qualified to form an opinion, has lately stated that our great staple, cotton, has contributed more than anything else of later times to the progress of civilization. By enabling the poor to obtain cheap and becoming clothing, it has inspired a taste for comfort, the first stimulus to civilization. Does not self-defense, then, demand of us steadily to resist the abrogation of that which is productive of so much good? It is more than self-defense. IT is to defend millions of human beings, who are far removed from us, from the intensest suffering, if not from being struck out of existence. It is the defense of human civilization.
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    Re: Executive order from Governor Jan Brewer blocks IDs, benefits for illegal immigra

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Foley View Post
    Maybe you should drop the "far right guy" act and be more inclusive in your criticisms.

    Im an equal opportunity critic...but I apply far right and left when I believe its appropriate...I have no problem bashing either/or matt

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    Re: Executive order from Governor Jan Brewer blocks IDs, benefits for illegal immigra

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    The best way to get rid of illegals, after all, is to just kill them.
    Alabama's experience shows that a state can eliminate nearly all of them just by punishing businesses who hire them.

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    Re: Executive order from Governor Jan Brewer blocks IDs, benefits for illegal immigra

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Maybe. I'm gonna go with Arizona being forced to adhere to the law and I'm going to go with Interstate Commerce as being the excuse. It has no rational place being there, but man do the courts love that one.
    [indent]We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
    That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,
    That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government,[/quote]

    We keep getting closer and closer to a need to alter or abolish what we have today.

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    Re: Executive order from Governor Jan Brewer blocks IDs, benefits for illegal immigra

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    So in a pro-illegal libtard mind someone who is against illegal immigration,speaks out against illegal immigration and criticizes the president for basically making the the illegal immigration problem worse is now a dumb skank?
    Be gentle with him. It is all he has.

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    Re: Executive order from Governor Jan Brewer blocks IDs, benefits for illegal immigra

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Im an equal opportunity critic...but I apply far right and left when I believe its appropriate...I have no problem bashing either/or matt
    So when was the last time Obama or the Democrats stopped the flow of cheap foreign labor?

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    Re: Executive order from Governor Jan Brewer blocks IDs, benefits for illegal immigra

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Foley View Post
    So when was the last time Obama or the Democrats stopped the flow of cheap foreign labor?

    umm never............

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    Re: Executive order from Governor Jan Brewer blocks IDs, benefits for illegal immigra

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    The best way to get rid of illegals, after all, is to just kill them.
    no. The best way to get rid of illegals is enforcing use of E-Verify.

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    Re: Executive order from Governor Jan Brewer blocks IDs, benefits for illegal immigra

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Alabama's experience shows that a state can eliminate nearly all of them just by punishing businesses who hire them.
    I miss 'Bama.

    How's Huntsville right now? I'm hoping to get a job there sometime towards the end of next year. Send my boys through Grissom, maybe .

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