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    Re: Executive order from Governor Jan Brewer blocks IDs, benefits for illegal immigra

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I hope other states follow suit. The easiest way of doing that is to require that in order to get and or renew a driver's licenses/IDs you must show birth certificate or a certificate of naturalization and a social security card an then require that in order to enroll into school,enroll kids into school, get welfare,voter registration, foodstamps,business license and another else you must present your Arizona state issued ID and social security card.This way no one can fraudulently claim their is racial profiling. Besides that federal law already bans illegals from getting benefits.



    Executive order from Governor Jan Brewer blocks IDs, benefits for illegal immigrants
    PHOENIX - Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer has signed an executive order directing state agencies to deny driver's licenses and other public benefits to young illegal immigrants who obtain work authorizations under a new Obama administration program.
    Brewer's order issued Wednesday says she's reaffirming the intent of current Arizona law denying taxpayer-funded public benefits and state identification to illegal immigrants.

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    Brewer's order says the program's federal paperwork doesn't confer lawful status on illegal immigrants and won't entitle them to Arizona public benefits.
    She directs state agencies to start emergency rulemaking processes as necessary to implement her order.

    can't stand the bitch, but she got this one right
    As the (Department of Homeland Security) has said repeatedly ... these individuals do not have lawful status. They are able to remain in the country and not be deported, and not be prosecuted, but they do not have lawful status.
    from whitehouse.gov (and dhs.gov):
    Today, the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services will begin accepting requests for consideration of deferred action for childhood arrivals. Deferred action is a discretionary determination to defer removal action of an individual as an act of prosecutorial discretion. Under this process, USCIS will consider requests on a case-by-case basis. While this process does not provide lawful status or a pathway to permanent residence or citizenship, individuals whose cases are deferred will not be removed from the United States for a two year period, subject to renewal, and may also receive employment authorization. ...
    that says only that those illegals who meet the requirements of the executive order will not be pursued for prosecution for their undocumented alien status and that they are eligible to receive federal documentation to work
    it does nothing to compel states to provide any benefits the state does not find illegals are entitled to receive, including state issued drivers licenses
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    Re: Executive order from Governor Jan Brewer blocks IDs, benefits for illegal immigra

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    Re: Executive order from Governor Jan Brewer blocks IDs, benefits for illegal immigra

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    The best way to get rid of illegals, after all, is to just kill them.
    Well, that is what mexico generally does.

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    Re: Executive order from Governor Jan Brewer blocks IDs, benefits for illegal immigra

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I hope other states follow suit. The easiest way of doing that is to require that in order to get and or renew a driver's licenses/IDs you must show birth certificate or a certificate of naturalization and a social security card an then require that in order to enroll into school,enroll kids into school, get welfare,voter registration, foodstamps,business license and another else you must present your Arizona state issued ID and social security card.This way no one can fraudulently claim their is racial profiling. Besides that federal law already bans illegals from getting benefits.



    Executive order from Governor Jan Brewer blocks IDs, benefits for illegal immigrants
    PHOENIX - Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer has signed an executive order directing state agencies to deny driver's licenses and other public benefits to young illegal immigrants who obtain work authorizations under a new Obama administration program.
    Brewer's order issued Wednesday says she's reaffirming the intent of current Arizona law denying taxpayer-funded public benefits and state identification to illegal immigrants.

    snip...

    Brewer's order says the program's federal paperwork doesn't confer lawful status on illegal immigrants and won't entitle them to Arizona public benefits.
    She directs state agencies to start emergency rulemaking processes as necessary to implement her order.

    There are pluses and minuses with Brewer's decision. On the plus side, illegals are pressured for being here illegally. But on the minus side, those who stay will drive without licenses, and of course, will not carry insurance. A much better solution would be to be criminally charge employers who knowingly employ illegal aliens. That would be much more effective. If illegals can't earn a living, then they will leave.
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    Re: Executive order from Governor Jan Brewer blocks IDs, benefits for illegal immigra

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Likely. I hold no hope for State's rights here.
    Considering that the Fed's long ago quit paying attention to that whole 'states rights' thing, I feel the same.

    Unfortunately too many citizens of this nation don't understand this bit of the constitution either, thus they just sit and let it happen.
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    Re: Executive order from Governor Jan Brewer blocks IDs, benefits for illegal immigra

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I hope other states follow suit. The easiest way of doing that is to require that in order to get and or renew a driver's licenses/IDs you must show birth certificate or a certificate of naturalization and a social security card an then require that in order to enroll into school,enroll kids into school, get welfare,voter registration, foodstamps,business license and another else you must present your Arizona state issued ID and social security card.This way no one can fraudulently claim their is racial profiling. Besides that federal law already bans illegals from getting benefits.




    Executive order from Governor Jan Brewer blocks IDs, benefits for illegal immigrants
    PHOENIX - Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer has signed an executive order directing state agencies to deny driver's licenses and other public benefits to young illegal immigrants who obtain work authorizations under a new Obama administration program.
    Brewer's order issued Wednesday says she's reaffirming the intent of current Arizona law denying taxpayer-funded public benefits and state identification to illegal immigrants.

    snip...

    Brewer's order says the program's federal paperwork doesn't confer lawful status on illegal immigrants and won't entitle them to Arizona public benefits.
    She directs state agencies to start emergency rulemaking processes as necessary to implement her order.

    Good for the Governor...I am 100% behind her.
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    Re: Executive order from Governor Jan Brewer blocks IDs, benefits for illegal immigra

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    There are pluses and minuses with Brewer's decision. On the plus side, illegals are pressured for being here illegally. But on the minus side, those who stay will drive without licenses, and of course, will not carry insurance. A much better solution would be to be criminally charge employers who knowingly employ illegal aliens. That would be much more effective. If illegals can't earn a living, then they will leave.
    Not if our government keeps feeding and housing them and our hospitals and schools keep wasting services on them.
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    Re: Executive order from Governor Jan Brewer blocks IDs, benefits for illegal immigra

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    There are pluses and minuses with Brewer's decision. On the plus side, illegals are pressured for being here illegally. But on the minus side, those who stay will drive without licenses, and of course, will not carry insurance. A much better solution would be to be criminally charge employers who knowingly employ illegal aliens. That would be much more effective. If illegals can't earn a living, then they will leave.
    Can states criminally charge scumbags for hiring illegals? I don't see the federal government wanting to charge traitorous scumbags who hire illegals with a felony and I see the federal government suing the first state that makes it a misdemeanor or felony to hire an illegal. States however can say that in order to get a state issued driver's license and ID you must present a birth certificate or certificate of naturalization and a social security card and states can say that in order to enroll kids into school,get a business permit,license to practice law,get food stamps, apply for student aid and etc you must present a state issued ID/Driver's license and a social security card.
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    Re: Executive order from Governor Jan Brewer blocks IDs, benefits for illegal immigra

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    The best way to get rid of illegals, after all, is to just kill them.
    Of course, Killing children, or booting them out school is going to hurt her approval rating.... what's left of it.

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    Re: Executive order from Governor Jan Brewer blocks IDs, benefits for illegal immigra

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Of course, Killing children, or booting them out school is going to hurt her approval rating.... what's left of it.
    The majority of Arizonans support sb 1070, why would booting illegals from school hurt her approval rating?
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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