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    Re: Executive order from Governor Jan Brewer blocks IDs, benefits for illegal immigra

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    But I'm not saying it's wrong. You failed to correctly read and understand my post. I'm saying I support any President who goes after enemies for the right reasons. I trust the check and balances in our system and I encourage the 4th estate, news media, to be ever diligent.
    Fair enough. I can't believe you trust the media, but, to each his own.
    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    I was asking you a rhetorical question that implied you were being a hypocrite with regard to your criticism of President Obama.
    If you've never noticed, I am just as critical of neocons. A neocon, just so happens, isn't the POTUS right now. That Governor Romney implies he would continue the war mongering we have engaged in is the single reason I won't vote for him. I will never vote for anyone who thinks its okay to go to war with a country simply because we don't like what they're doing.
    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Relaying facts on record is not 'preaching'. I'm noting the lack of criticism about an unjust war vs. the current criticism toward justified military action. The right was okay with 'enhanced interrogation' but using intel to take out high-value targets is somehow bad because it's President Obama.
    I would reverse that argument. How are liberals critical of something that doesn't cause permanent damage, doesn't kill anyone, and gained us valuable intel but okay with indiscriminantly killing people, including civilians, with nothing gained other than a body count? Granted, neither are okay (although waterboarding isn't torture IMO), but the hypocrisy runs rampant.
    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    I recall several planes filled with people and jet fuel being hijacked in flown into buildings. That is a legitimate reason to go to war. Though the action was not sponsored by any one particular country, (e.g. Japan Pear Harbor) we are still morally justified in wiping every terrorist cell off the face of the earth. Unfortunately, weeding your yard is a process that never seems to end.
    I think we are morally justified in taking out the guys who master minded it. That doesn't take hundreds of thousands of trooops, nation buildiing, and billions of dollars. For all of the troops deployed, turns out we got the intel for OBL from somewhere that had nothing to do with the military and an operation conducted by a small group of elite special ops guys. Not a Regimental Combat Team of Marines or Brigade Combat Team of soldiers.
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    Re: Executive order from Governor Jan Brewer blocks IDs, benefits for illegal immigra

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I hope other states follow suit. The easiest way of doing that is to require that in order to get and or renew a driver's licenses/IDs you must show birth certificate or a certificate of naturalization and a social security card an then require that in order to enroll into school,enroll kids into school, get welfare,voter registration, foodstamps,business license and another else you must present your Arizona state issued ID and social security card.This way no one can fraudulently claim their is racial profiling. Besides that federal law already bans illegals from getting benefits.

    Executive order from Governor Jan Brewer blocks IDs, benefits for illegal immigrants
    PHOENIX - Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer has signed an executive order directing state agencies to deny driver's licenses and other public benefits to young illegal immigrants who obtain work authorizations under a new Obama administration program.
    Brewer's order issued Wednesday says she's reaffirming the intent of current Arizona law denying taxpayer-funded public benefits and state identification to illegal immigrants.


    Brewer's order says the program's federal paperwork doesn't confer lawful status on illegal immigrants and won't entitle them to Arizona public benefits.
    She directs state agencies to start emergency rulemaking processes as necessary to implement her order.

    Something is going seriously wrong when a governor has to sign a exec order to basically follow a law? I really cannot understand how any of the illegal immigration issues are issues when they technically are not even here in the 1st place. And when they are discovered here, they should um... be deported. I heard they do that in other countries. Not sure what the problem is that we are running into anymore with this country.

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