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    Re: Executive order from Governor Jan Brewer blocks IDs, benefits for illegal immigra

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    and i have to side with matt
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    Totally true. But for thousands of years olive growers have never found that invention.

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    make the alternative cost of hand picked production significantly higher and you have then incentivized the market to come up with a cheaper alternative
    I don't understand this.

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    Re: Executive order from Governor Jan Brewer blocks IDs, benefits for illegal immigra

    Quote Originally Posted by Another Lurker View Post
    Totally true. But for thousands of years olive growers have never found that invention.
    Didn't they use slave labor and dirt cheap labor for thousands of years to pick olives?

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    Re: Executive order from Governor Jan Brewer blocks IDs, benefits for illegal immigra

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    I know. Who would think a POTUS would hold sole authority to launch missiles at people on a pre-composed kill list? That's out of this world isn't it?
    And if it were a Republican President taking out foreign enemies or ex-patriot traders, how would you feel about it?

    I have no problem with drone bombing training camps, hide outs, stockpiles, communication centers -- anything to wipe extremists off the face of the planet.

    Who are we to say we're right? We're Superman, and with great power comes great responsibility. President Obama and those that fight terrorists carry that burden.

    Could this be a potential problem -- ultimate power ultimately corrupts? Dick Cheney? WMD lies taking us into war?

    That's why the integrity of the 4th estate is so important--so that corrupted officials always get exposed.

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    Re: Executive order from Governor Jan Brewer blocks IDs, benefits for illegal immigra

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    And if it were a Republican President taking out foreign enemies or ex-patriot traders, how would you feel about it?

    I have no problem with drone bombing training camps, hide outs, stockpiles, communication centers -- anything to wipe extremists off the face of the planet.

    Who are we to say we're right? We're Superman, and with great power comes great responsibility. President Obama and those that fight terrorists carry that burden.

    Could this be a potential problem -- ultimate power ultimately corrupts? Dick Cheney? WMD lies taking us into war?

    That's why the integrity of the 4th estate is so important--so that corrupted officials always get exposed.
    The typical "well, they did it too" response. Two wrongs don't make a right. And don't preach to me about WMD's, Iraq, etc. You didn't have to go fight the war that you knew was based on fautly intel.
    It's funny that people such as yourself don't see an issue with the drone program. If another country flew drones over out land and dropped Hellfires on us, we'd be going to war.
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    Re: Executive order from Governor Jan Brewer blocks IDs, benefits for illegal immigra

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Didn't they use slave labor and dirt cheap labor for thousands of years to pick olives?

    Thank you for the picture. Guess I just got smarted up a bit.

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    Re: Executive order from Governor Jan Brewer blocks IDs, benefits for illegal immigra

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Didn't they use slave labor and dirt cheap labor for thousands of years to pick olives?

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    Re: Executive order from Governor Jan Brewer blocks IDs, benefits for illegal immigra

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    The typical "well, they did it too" response. Two wrongs don't make a right.
    But I'm not saying it's wrong. You failed to correctly read and understand my post. I'm saying I support any President who goes after enemies for the right reasons. I trust the check and balances in our system and I encourage the 4th estate, news media, to be ever diligent.

    I was asking you a rhetorical question that implied you were being a hypocrite with regard to your criticism of President Obama.


    And don't preach to me about WMD's, Iraq, etc. You didn't have to go fight the war that you knew was based on fautly intel.
    Relaying facts on record is not 'preaching'. I'm noting the lack of criticism about an unjust war vs. the current criticism toward justified military action. The right was okay with 'enhanced interrogation' but using intel to take out high-value targets is somehow bad because it's President Obama.

    It's funny that people such as yourself don't see an issue with the drone program. If another country flew drones over out land and dropped Hellfires on us, we'd be going to war.
    I recall several planes filled with people and jet fuel being hijacked in flown into buildings. That is a legitimate reason to go to war. Though the action was not sponsored by any one particular country, (e.g. Japan Pear Harbor) we are still morally justified in wiping every terrorist cell off the face of the earth. Unfortunately, weeding your yard is a process that never seems to end.

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    Re: Executive order from Governor Jan Brewer blocks IDs, benefits for illegal immigra

    ...oh I already said that, hehe.
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    Re: Executive order from Governor Jan Brewer blocks IDs, benefits for illegal immigra

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    I miss 'Bama.

    How's Huntsville right now? I'm hoping to get a job there sometime towards the end of next year. Send my boys through Grissom, maybe .
    It is beautiful right now. I have been sitting on my deck enjoying the hillside and the woods. I regret that someday I shall die and leave all of this behind.

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    Re: Executive order from Governor Jan Brewer blocks IDs, benefits for illegal immigra

    Yep. The law has its usual detractors. But it is working just fine.

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