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    Re: Israel Plans Iran Strike; Citizens Say Government Serious [W:52]

    Quote Originally Posted by John.NoseTip View Post
    I'm sure it's too much to ask that our government let Israel fight it's own war. Sooner or later the rest of the world is going to start kicking back against all this aggression and our leaders must know this. Therefore, I have to assume that there are people who want a large scale conflict in the world. Aren't constant wars one of the signatures of a society in decline?

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    We need to stay out of this completely, neither Russia nor China will intervene without US intervention first. I dont think any world power wants to be the people who caused world war 3, which is what would happen if Israel goes to war with Iran with backing from the US military. If Israel and Iran go to war with one another, it would be smart that no major world power involve itself in the conflict. We need a little more isolationism and a lot less foreign intervention, that should have been the foreign policy that began directly after we killed Bin Laden. The war on terror is over, what is the excuse for more conflict? More conflict can and will create a new Bin Laden and cause another 9-11. We cant afford to have America's hand in another conflict, its war mongering and it is shameful.

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    Re: Israel Plans Iran Strike; Citizens Say Government Serious [W:52]

    Quote Originally Posted by John.NoseTip View Post
    Where did I cheer? If you read the original article you will see that Israel is the one threatening to bomb not Iran. To the best of my recollection our Vice President went to Israel to talk about settlements and restarting the peace process. What was BB response? Well on the day Biden arrived he announced a new settlement. I don't know how you can interpret that as anything by f*** you by our ally. My understanding of allies is they work together if one wants to go off the reservation then good luck to them.
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    Re: Israel Plans Iran Strike; Citizens Say Government Serious [W:52]

    Hm, I see a very dangerous trend taking place in this discussion - treating countries like individuals. Iran do this, Israel do this, Syria act like this, Turkey act like that... I feel like I am in the 30's, before WW2... When people involve themselves in such a rhetoric, the chance of getting a new world war increase dramatically.

    Remember, countries are no people!
    It's wrong to generalise them!

    For example, I don't even like my government. Why should I take the responsibility of someone else's decisions and policy?

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    Re: Israel Plans Iran Strike; Citizens Say Government Serious [W:52]

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    Hm, I see a very dangerous trend taking place in this discussion - treating countries like individuals. Iran do this, Israel do this, Syria act like this, Turkey act like that... I feel like I am in the 30's, before WW2... When people involve themselves in such a rhetoric, the chance of getting a new world war increase dramatically.

    Remember, countries are no people!
    It's wrong to generalise them!

    For example, I don't even like my government. Why should I take the responsibility of someone else's decisions and policy?
    Question. Are you saying that the countries should not be left to their own devices?
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    Re: Israel Plans Iran Strike; Citizens Say Government Serious [W:52]

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    Question. Are you saying that the countries should not be left to their own devices?
    I am saying that you cannot treat nations like individuals, they are not. Imagine if we identified Americans by G.W. Bush or by American foreign policy!

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    Re: Israel Plans Iran Strike; Citizens Say Government Serious [W:52]

    Quote Originally Posted by johnny_rebson View Post
    We must keep a strong military presence in the middle east. We must protect our oil.
    Self-determination for nations determined to destroy us has been a self-hating idea of a decadent West and should be abandoned. We and other importers should seize OPEC oil and sell it for its natural price, which is less than $5 a barrel. That is what our military is for, to stand up to price-gouging foreigners, who have damaged us more than a military invasion would have. Now our military is used to protect our Saudi enemies from their own enemies. This is treason, motivated by the fact that our oil companies piggyback off OPEC price-gouging.
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    Re: Israel Plans Iran Strike; Citizens Say Government Serious [W:52]

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    I am saying that you cannot treat nations like individuals, they are not. Imagine if we identified Americans by G.W. Bush or by American foreign policy!
    Gotcha. Makes sense now.
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    Re: Israel Plans Iran Strike; Citizens Say Government Serious [W:52]

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    I am saying that you cannot treat nations like individuals, they are not. Imagine if we identified Americans by G.W. Bush or by American foreign policy!
    Well, he did win the vote and his foreign policy was supported by a majority of congress. It's not like he was a dictator.

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    Re: Israel Plans Iran Strike; Citizens Say Government Serious [W:52]

    Quote Originally Posted by PaulBot415 View Post
    We need to stay out of this completely, neither Russia nor China will intervene without US intervention first. I dont think any world power wants to be the people who caused world war 3, which is what would happen if Israel goes to war with Iran with backing from the US military. If Israel and Iran go to war with one another, it would be smart that no major world power involve itself in the conflict. We need a little more isolationism and a lot less foreign intervention, that should have been the foreign policy that began directly after we killed Bin Laden. The war on terror is over, what is the excuse for more conflict? More conflict can and will create a new Bin Laden and cause another 9-11. We cant afford to have America's hand in another conflict, its war mongering and it is shameful.
    How! How! How on EARTH will this bring about World War III!

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